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Old Oct 20, 2012, 09:57 AM
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Brad Gibson is the new Marblehead World Champion.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 11:14 AM
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MH Worlds

That is one way to dominate a regatta, Congrats to Brad.
It's also nice to see the MH class strong and thriving world wide.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 11:33 AM
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Rumor is that there may be another Worlds in Holland in two years.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 03:34 PM
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Marblehead Designs

Welldone to Brad
I see that the Brits take the top 3 places with 3 different GBR designs. Which is very interesting. If we can all recall, I mentioned previously about the Skalpul, its regarded as the best performing design in the States. Personally I think its out dated but the highest Skalpul finished 5th i think, very commendable. However, do people think now that Marblehead designs have moved on alot from the Skalpul. The British based yachts are either new or have been updated in the last 2 years. My thoughts are based on this result and the UK Championships this year.

Im interested on other skippers thoughts...

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Old Oct 20, 2012, 04:21 PM
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Certainly Brad's is a new design, but are the others?

Somewhere I read that Martin Robert's boat won the UK Nationals in 2006.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 04:48 PM
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Brad's boat is new, Martin's boat had updated foils and rigs in the last 3 months. GB's boat is continually being worked on aswell as the rigs.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 05:11 PM
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Somewhere along the line, someone was asking for a photo of a Magic Dragon.

Well.
Here's one, from the late 1960's
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 05:49 PM
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Brad's boat is new, Martin's boat had updated foils and rigs in the last 3 months. GB's boat is continually being worked on aswell as the rigs.
JT

I guess my point is that you don't need to throw the hull away, there are many ways to improve performance.

I have found a huge improvement on my IOM's performance by changing rigs: new sails, new mast and even new booms. I might add that it is all from BG.
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 07:12 PM
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Personally I'm not a fan of the swing rig, so any of those designs to me is eralavent. Having owned many Skalpels I find that there is plenty of speed in the tuning. When it is dial in, there is nothing faster. But it does take sometime and know how on tuning.
I'm glad that there is so much talk about the Skalpel, it is the pace horse for all these other designs to beat. I had planned to do the MH Worlds but the USA slot was given to someone else (and he did not go....?). My choice of boat would have been the Skalpel for the one major reason that I own one and can get what I want out of the boat.
If the next Worlds are to be in Holland, I would do my homework about the regatta venue, see what the conditions are for that time period the regatta is to partake then decide on a boat/design a year before the regatta and sail/learn the boat as much as possible.
Right now the top US sailors are focused on the IOM's and the MH class has suffered because of this in the US. There are still some nice MH racing in AZ and in FL and that is what it takes. Start locally and let it build.
I would think a 2013 NCR could piggy back with another venue such as this years SD Race Week. Maybe in FL or Texas or back in CA.
Good stuff....!!!
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 07:47 PM
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If the next Worlds are to be in Holland, I would do my homework about the regatta venue, see what the conditions are for that time period the regatta is to partake then decide on a boat/design a year before the regatta and sail/learn the boat as much as possible.
BAM
You're exactly right!

Example:
Here in the USA, alot of our focus has been on pinching every last gram of wieght out of the boat... But, if the next worlds were to be in a place such as Holland, we just don't get the stiff winds that they do! The Ultra-Ultralight boats will be knocked silly!

We just don't (as a generality) have the heavy-air venues that they do.

If NOAA forecasts 10mph winds for Marblehead, I can garuntee you It's blowing 5mph at Redds Pond!

Again, the whole point of the M-Class is an adaptation and interpretation of the rules to create a boat that will excell at whatever you want. Heck, I've got an M that will turn on a dime with really flat stations, and another that won't turn at all with elipses!
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 10:27 PM
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I'm not very knowledgeable about boat designs, or even rules and tactics. With that said, I do believe that, much like sailplanes, there are designs that shine in different conditions. Combine the right boat with the right conditions, and a good skill-set in general sailing ability and tactics, and anyone can win. It just so happens that the better skippers tend to have a better ability at making the most of what conditions will allow, so they win much more frequently.

Does anyone here take multiple boats for different conditions at a contest?
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 05:42 PM
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I'm not very knowledgeable about boat designs, or even rules and tactics. With that said, I do believe that, much like sailplanes, there are designs that shine in different conditions. Combine the right boat with the right conditions, and a good skill-set in general sailing ability and tactics, and anyone can win. It just so happens that the better skippers tend to have a better ability at making the most of what conditions will allow, so they win much more frequently.

Does anyone here take multiple boats for different conditions at a contest?
The #1 thing that will make you win is... You.
A fast boat helps, but if you can't tune it, and cant' sail it, it's hopeless.

A good skipper can make a slow boat fast.
A bad skipper can make a fast boat slow.


With that said, no there's no reason to bring multiple boats to an event.
If you did, you'd never "Settle in" to what you're doing and get focused.
3-Rigs to cover wind speeds, and 2 keels is sufficient. Anything more, atleast in my mind you're confusing the issue, and not thinking about sailing & tuning, but rather what combination of rigs & keels, weights, angles, science blah blah blah.

There's one proven way to figure out if your boat is fast...
Sail it!
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 05:53 PM
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RM Worlds 2012

Just got home after a 12 hour drive and short ferry across the English Channel from the RM Worlds in France I'll post some pictures shortly of the event and some of the boats sailed there.
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 06:17 PM
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With that said, no there's no reason to bring multiple boats to an event.
If you did, you'd never "Settle in" to what you're doing and get focused.
3-Rigs to cover wind speeds, and 2 keels is sufficient.
I hadn't considered that, as I only have one rig and keel, though the wind today has me considering making up a B rig. First time I ever saw "my" boat submarine, and I had no idea what to do! The servo didn't have the guts to haul the sails in, and there was very little rudder left in the water. It just plowed along until it didn't, and the boat went along it's merry way.
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 06:28 PM
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I hadn't considered that, as I only have one rig and keel, though the wind today has me considering making up a B rig. First time I ever saw "my" boat submarine, and I had no idea what to do! The servo didn't have the guts to haul the sails in, and there was very little rudder left in the water. It just plowed along until it didn't, and the boat went along it's merry way.
Well,
that' all you really need to sail!

One of our skippers took a puff today sailing a swing-rig and got hit with a total knockdown.

If you've never sailed with a swing-rig you wouldn't be familiar yet with the situations where you can get knocked-down, and bury the jib in the water. If you sheet in then (which is the standard panic move) the jib pulls against the water, and puts you even more horizontal!
It was a Bantock Paradox, with about a 89 degree starboard list!

I was sailing a conventional rig today. I saw my rudder twice.
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