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Old May 06, 2012, 09:54 PM
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With the recommended throws the SHP does rolling harriers nice and slow.
On high or low rates?
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Old May 06, 2012, 09:56 PM
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well your also joe smith and know how to do 500 more moves than i do, (i am still on the learning side) is the edge still good for learning rolling harries? my 42 seems to spin to fast at times and and have trouble keeping it in rolling harrier mode it usally turns into a roller. but then again your joe smith so i may just go with the edge

ok i think next time i go to extreme rc hobbies in quarryville i am picking up one of the 48 edges
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Old May 06, 2012, 09:57 PM
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High rates. It's only about 30 degrees of throw on the ailerons. But this is of course compared to the 41'' edge.
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Old May 06, 2012, 10:00 PM
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well your also joe smith and know how to do 500 more moves than i do, is the edge still good for learning rolling harries? my 42 seems to spin to fast at times and and have trouble keeping it in rolling harrier mode it usally turns into a roller. but then again your joe smith so i may just go with the edge
If you have a hard time keeping up all you have to do is turn down your rates on the ailerons a bit. Try 3 or 4% at a time till it gets more comfortable for you then you can gradually speed it up as you gain confidence.
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Old May 06, 2012, 10:07 PM
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Stoned doggie there are several ways to make that 42 slick roll a little slower.
1) reduce aileron throw (my least favorite option)
2) bigger swings in throttle
3) Bigger inputs with the tail. <---- my favorite option. It gets the nose way up and slows the plane way down. When the airspeed slows the roll rate slows naturally.
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Old May 06, 2012, 10:08 PM
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If you have a hard time keeping up all you have to do is turn down your rates on the ailerons a bit. Try 3 or 4% at a time till it gets more comfortable for you then you can gradually speed it up as you gain confidence.
yea which means no hover and torqe rolls only lol its hard to keep a hover sometimes seems to always want to spin so hard, but i will try that and think i am gonna go with the edge (because joe said so!), also inveted harriers idk bought real life but the the it seems as if when i use rudder it just tips the plane alot more than if i were in upright harrier using rudder, do you use ail more than rudder in inverted harriers?



see plank there is a such thing as inveted harries(o and i had to google inverted harrieslol) and it happens to be turnerm
3D Beast - Inverted Harries, Hover, and a one wheel touch-n-go (7 min 9 sec)
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Old May 06, 2012, 10:12 PM
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Dave makes a good point there about using a little heavier inputs on the tail and adjusting how you use the throttle.

As far as inverted harrier I am no expert but I am starting to do some nice low passes which is a pretty big milestone. The rudder should always be your main source of steering but you may find yourself using more aileron to correct when inverted. You just have to get the feel of it. In general inverted harrier is a lot more stable than upright just don't over-do it on the rudder inputs and you should be fine.
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Old May 06, 2012, 10:13 PM
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Stoned doggie there are several ways to make that 42 slick roll a little slower.
1) reduce aileron throw (my least favorite option)
2) bigger swings in throttle
3) Bigger inputs with the tail. <---- my favorite option. It gets the nose way up and slows the plane way down. When the airspeed slows the roll rate slows naturally.
well bigger inputs on the tail makes a rolling flip lol, but then i guess i need to lower throttle and add more throttle when i input rudder and lower agian, idk i will see what i can do tomarrow, if i can fly tomarrow think mom has some yard work for me
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Old May 06, 2012, 10:15 PM
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well your also joe smith and know how to do 500 more moves than i do, (i am still on the learning side) is the edge still good for learning rolling harries? my 42 seems to spin to fast at times and and have trouble keeping it in rolling harrier mode it usally turns into a roller. but then again your joe smith so i may just go with the edge

ok i think next time i go to extreme rc hobbies in quarryville i am picking up one of the 48 edges

I personally feel the edge sits in rollers easier which makes it a better trainer for them.

For the 42, just back down your aileron throw, I had to do that to learn rollers.
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Old May 06, 2012, 10:17 PM
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I personally feel the edge sits in rollers easier which makes it a better trainer for them.

For the 42, just back down your aileron throw, I had to do that to learn rollers.
cool, edge it is then, and i will try the more rudder input with little more swing on the throttle and if thats still doesent do it for then i will turn the rates down some.

is the 48 edge rudder pull/pull?
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Old May 06, 2012, 10:18 PM
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yea which means no hover and torqe rolls only lol its hard to keep a hover sometimes seems to always want to spin so hard, but i will try that and think i am gonna go with the edge (because joe said so!), also inveted harriers idk bought real life but the the it seems as if when i use rudder it just tips the plane alot more than if i were in upright harrier using rudder, do you use ail more than rudder in inverted harriers?


u can reduce ur ailerons on a switch so u can flip the switch for learning rollers and then flip it back for counteracting torque roll
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cool, edge it is then, and i will try the more rudder input with little more swing on the throttle and if thats still doesent do it for then i will turn the rates down some.

is the 48 edge rudder pull/pull?
You should be able to peg the aileron in level flight and still keep up. If it's too fast for that then learning rollers will be crazy hard.
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Old May 06, 2012, 10:19 PM
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I agree with joe on the edge being easier to roll. I only have experience with the 48 edge but it was WAY easier than with the little slick at first.
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Old May 06, 2012, 10:20 PM
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You should be able to peg the aileron in level flight and still keep up. If it's too fast for that then learning rollers will be crazy hard.
what do you mean by peg the aileron?
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Old May 06, 2012, 10:21 PM
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push it all the way in one direction.
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