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Old Feb 17, 2013, 10:57 PM
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If I'm parallel charging 2 4s batteries I assume the voltage in your formula still stays at 14.8V?
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 11:06 PM
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If I'm parallel charging 2 4s batteries I assume the voltage in your formula still stays at 14.8V?
Now you got it.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 11:16 PM
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So my new 4Runner has a 400W 120V plug in the back. It would be nice to use my meanwell power supply and my iCharger 3010B that way but the meanwell is a 1000W power supply.

I know NOTHING about electricity (voltage, wattage, etc). I assume it's feasible to plug my charger setup into the outlet as long as I don't go above a certain amp charge rate? Is there any way to figure out what that rate might be? Or is it best just not to use that at all for this purpose and stick with my deep cycle field charging battery?
Don't worry, if you overdo it you just blow a fuse. I've done it twice
Simple easy fix. Mine isn't 400w either, that's a nice enhancement. Mine is only like 100 watts or so, I can barely charge anything back there.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 07:19 AM
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 08:31 AM
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nope you should be able to parallel any amount of 4s batts at W(watts your system is rated for) / V (nominal voltage of pack...in your case 14.8V for a 4s) = A (amps you will be setting)

In other words... in your car 400W / 14.8V = 27A. Remember your efficiency will be around 70% with that system so 27A x .70 =18.9A safely no matter how many packs you have in parallel. 6s @ 22.2V your gonna be restricted to about 12.5 amps no matter how many packs you have hooked up.

At you house if you have a 24V power supply you are regulated by your 30A built in limit of the charger.
Just curious, but why would you want to go from DC to AC and back to DC? Wouldn't it be more efficient just to run a DC line off of the fuse panel to back of the vehicle? And wouldn't a 400W load run the battery down quickly?
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 08:36 AM
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i killed the battery in my dads truck charging 6S's at the field. we had to get a jump fro someone else.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 08:57 AM
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zmonster97,

Let me know what you come up with since I'll eventually want a 4" red spinner for the gas powered 103" with falcon prop. Would like to just buy it, drill it, and slap it on
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 08:58 AM
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i killed the battery in my dads truck charging 6S's at the field. we had to get a jump fro someone else.
Just jump it from a charged 4s lipo next time if you have one laying around. I've done that once on a friends van
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 09:32 AM
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nope you should be able to parallel any amount of 4s batts at W(watts your system is rated for) / V (nominal voltage of pack...in your case 14.8V for a 4s) = A (amps you will be setting)

In other words... in your car 400W / 14.8V = 27A. Remember your efficiency will be around 70% with that system so 27A x .70 =18.9A safely no matter how many packs you have in parallel. 6s @ 22.2V your gonna be restricted to about 12.5 amps no matter how many packs you have hooked up.

At you house if you have a 24V power supply you are regulated by your 30A built in limit of the charger.
Thanks Bryan. But just to be clear I would be using the same power supply at the house and in the car. But I'm assuming what you're saying is that the limiting factor at home is the 30A max charge rate of my charger right?
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 09:36 AM
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Just curious, but why would you want to go from DC to AC and back to DC? Wouldn't it be more efficient just to run a DC line off of the fuse panel to back of the vehicle? And wouldn't a 400W load run the battery down quickly?
The car has to be running in order to utilize this outlet. But yes... I would drain the car battery in a hurry if it weren't running.

The reason I'm trying to use AC power is because I've got my charger setup to run at the house and it goes off of AC. The car has both AC and DC outlets. The AC outlet can go up to 400W. So I want to simply take my meanwell power supply and my 3010B with me when I go flying and simply plug it up in the car just as I would in the house and charge my batteries that way.

I've also got a deep cycle marine battery for this purpose but I like having the flexibility of using both if I want to.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 09:38 AM
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Don't worry, if you overdo it you just blow a fuse. I've done it twice
Simple easy fix. Mine isn't 400w either, that's a nice enhancement. Mine is only like 100 watts or so, I can barely charge anything back there.
That's true. It's odd though... in the manual they say not to use anything that pulls more than 10 amps from the DC outlet but they don't seem to specify for the AC outlet. They DO specify the watts though so I guess I should go by that (as Byran has done) instead and assume that the resulting amp draw is OK?

I could've sworn that I read somewhere at some point the other night that it was rated for up to 15 amps but now I can't find it.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 10:59 AM
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zmonster97,

Let me know what you come up with since I'll eventually want a 4" red spinner for the gas powered 103" with falcon prop. Would like to just buy it, drill it, and slap it on
Ok, but I won't be getting a painted spinner.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 11:12 AM
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who's going to WRAM? I'm planning for friday, but may be there saturday instead.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 11:15 AM
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who's going to WRAM? I'm planning for friday, but may be there saturday instead.
I hope to! I want to go friday, but I'll probably be there saturday.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 11:25 AM
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Thanks Bryan. But just to be clear I would be using the same power supply at the house and in the car. But I'm assuming what you're saying is that the limiting factor at home is the 30A max charge rate of my charger right?
Totally.
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