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Old Jan 24, 2013, 10:21 PM
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well so much for getting sponsored this year. closest place 3dhs will be at is 6.5 hours away. :/
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 10:24 PM
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well so much for getting sponsored this year. closest place 3dhs will be at is 6.5 hours away. :/
Take off at 6 you'll be there by lunch!!
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 11:08 PM
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It's really disappointing that they are excluding Joe. There are so many other ways that they could have gone about it. The King 50 is/was the premier 3D event. Maybe they will reconsider but eliminating a 3DHS pilot because you are in a disagreement seems a little extreme to me.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 11:16 PM
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Sleepy over at FG said they made a new rule that if you win the King 50 3 times you can no longer compete. Wonder what Joe thinks about this? Kind of disappointing if you ask me. I see the King 50 as the top 3d event every year.

The whole point of the King 50 was to introduce new pilots to the world. So we are pushing forward with the addition of this new rule. I hope this takes some of the nervousness away from younger pilots to come out and rip! [/I]


Seems to me the whole point of of a great competion is to compete against the best. To eliminate previous winners, no matter how many times they have won is nuts. In my view who ever wins this year should have an "asterik" put by their name stating I won but I did not fly against the best.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 11:20 PM
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I like the Pro, Amateur, class idea. You qualify and so many points puts you in pro, amateur, and beginner. That way EVERYONE can compete and there will be more entry fee incomes, everyone will have a chance to fly with the "best" and it can become something "big". I can see the FLI events producing something like this...We will see.

But that being said....when Joe won his first King 50, no one "expected" him to win, he put a lot of time and effort into it, and beat some of the top guys that were expected to win. So really anyone could win King 50 if they put the time and effort into it, Joe is just really good.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 11:42 PM
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Very well said Jim and I had to post over there my feelings when I heard the change. I totally agree with "going to impose the new rule to just keep Joe out, they should add 1 more, Anyone who has competed in XFC can't be in it either."
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 12:03 AM
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drama is no fun....see you at the Ktown FLI.....no drama there....just fun....guaranteed. I think my family is booking an alaska vacation that will keep me from the Ohio event anyway.....but i bet there will be some 3dhs planes in K50...maybe Anthony, Steven, Michael...they were both there last year....all were first timers and did a great job.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 12:23 AM
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drama is no fun....see you at the Ktown FLI.....no drama there....just fun....guaranteed. I think my family is booking an alaska vacation that will keep me from the Ohio event anyway.....but i bet there will be some 3dhs planes in K50...maybe Anthony, Steven, Michael...they were both there last year....all were first timers and did a great job.
Known FLI sounds fun
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 12:58 AM
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I always thought King 50 was started as a way for unknown-unsponsored pilots a shot at a title, kind of like Rocky, at least thats the way I interpreted from Ben at 3DHS.

We decided that there needed to be a new freestyle competition for 50CC class aircraft and pilots who had not had a big break - yet.With 50CC class planes, even unsponsored guys can afford to take risks to win. So, we cooked up the idea of King 50.

http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/s...04&postcount=1


Its kind of sad then when the rules don't apply some really get offended and there is some kind of drama and no offense but we rarely see this from other great pilots.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 01:44 AM
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But, why was it that when Joe won, it was said that the only reason he won, was due to the fact he is a sponsored pilot from 3DHS (yes, one of the previous sponsors of the Huckfest series), yet Jase Dussia came in second place, and there were no comments made that he placed due to being sponsored by Extreme Flight.....seems a little biased to me...but then I wasn't there, so, what do I know....(only what I read/hear)....

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Old Jan 25, 2013, 07:47 AM
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We kinda expected it. 3DHS pulled out of the huckfests, started their own version,(FLI). I dont see any ads from 3DHS on FG any more. Quite a few sour apples over there. FG does have a reputation. Yes I am sad to see them take this route. Lots of young kids were competing in the King 50 last year. All of them really like Joe and probably prefer the rule not being made. I personally think that if they are going to impose the new rule to just keep Joe out, they should add 1 more, Anyone who has competed in XFC can't be in it either. Joe's happy he was able to win it 3 years in a row. He knows how hard he worked and the time he put in to win it too. He also knows how much time he spent helping the other competitors so they could have a chance to win it too. He was planning on coming back this year and competing with everyone else. Everyone starts with the same score "Zero" and they earn every point they get. He was hoping they would let him compete this year but he also knows what politics are capable of .
No other RC competition I know of has a limit to how many times 1 person can win it. The King 50 was the only real 3D competition in the US. Lots of People came to see the top guys competing in it. I just wonder if the new rule won't actually hurt what the King 50 was becoming. Lots of ways this could of been handled, Pro Class, Amateur class, etc. If politics and a few people with personal agendas hadn't intervened the King 50 had the possibility of becoming a world class event.
Now it will be remembered by " If you can't win it with a radio in your hands, then --- well you can fill in the blanks.
exactly!

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I like the Pro, Amateur, class idea. You qualify and so many points puts you in pro, amateur, and beginner. That way EVERYONE can compete and there will be more entry fee incomes, everyone will have a chance to fly with the "best" and it can become something "big". I can see the FLI events producing something like this...We will see.

But that being said....when Joe won his first King 50, no one "expected" him to win, he put a lot of time and effort into it, and beat some of the top guys that were expected to win. So really anyone could win King 50 if they put the time and effort into it, Joe is just really good.

and exactly!

having the differnt classes could only be for the better. not only would it attract more interest to the contest and FLI but to 3d in general.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 08:42 AM
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exactly!




and exactly!

having the differnt classes could only be for the better. not only would it attract more interest to the contest and FLI but to 3d in general.
There are lots of ways to build on the original concept.
Adding a 100cc class would even bring in more competitors. Different classes would of been a easy way to keep building the event. Maybe someone with vision of what the king50 could of become will start a new 3D contest. Instead of the route that was taken.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 08:49 AM
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Now it (King 50) will be remembered by " If you can't win it with a radio in your hands, then --- well you can fill in the blanks.
Here's the bottom line...they just killed it. The Huckfest is dying. Ohh well.

Also, I doubt the King 50 will be in Ohio. the nighthawks guys seem to think it will be...but I doubt it. (I'm not taking away anything from the Nighthawk's guys...they throw a great event and work really hard...even the main dude running things in Youngstown for the Huckfest mentioned on FG to not judge the club..they've worked really hard to make the Ohio huckfest great for the last 2 years)

No matter where it is, it's going to be lame (not becauase of the contestents/pilots)...it wasn't run well last year..a lot of people noticed. It's a shame because with a little more effort, it could have been amazing.

Here's the thing...things change...and it's up to you to improve things. I'm a little disappointed that Keith (Wedgewing) and I worked rather hard to get the Ohio Huckfest to Youngtown...and the event is dying...but I'm excited about new things this year.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 09:08 AM
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Wow....it sure would've been cool to see a k50 amateur with a k100 pro class....but that would also take a lot of flight line time I suppose....but would be an amazing event.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 09:15 AM
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ugg politics... tics,suck the life out of everything. I can see both sides tho.They may be scared folk wont compete if Joe does because he is so good. Joe is a freak of nature when it comes to 3D. How he keeps orientation on his planes just memorizing to me. But all the time he puts in to his skill set is no joke. So the other side is why not let him compete.(its what folks want to see anyhow) and let him earn the awards he worked for? politics. 2 sides to every gig. Sad to always seem to have so much drama in a hobby thats supposed to be a release from drama and the reality and stresses of work,etc.
That said,guess what is in for upgrades??
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