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Old Sep 06, 2012, 12:10 AM
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Hey guys..wanna proofread my review before I send it off to Model Airplane news?
Thanks!

Intro

Population of electric aerobatic flight continues to grow all over the world. A few years ago, 3DHobbyShop came out with its stunning new design of the Andrew Jesky 51” Slick. This little aerobatic champ seems quite a bit bigger than your typical .40 sized planes. The large and “roomy” fuselage makes its presence seem like a much larger plane-even in the air. With carbon fiber landing gear and tail wheel strut, very “slick” landings are very easy to achieve. Constructed of balsa and ply, this bird can take the accidental “3 point” on a landing mishap, or “when the wind kinda catches it”. The included fiberglass cowl is very nicely made, the trim scheme lines up perfectly and the cowl paint even perfectly matches the genuine UltraCote covering! And to top it all off, those wonderful no-blemish fiberglass wheelpants are included also. The very first thing I noticed when I picked the fuselage up out of the box was how light it was! Even with the tailfeathers, servos, battery, ESC and motor installed it was still very surprisingly light, but still one of the strongest planes I’ve owned! With the included carbon fiber wing spar, anti rotation pins together with the aluminum thumb bolts for the wings, you can be confident that your wings will stay attached, even in the most violent maneuvers. The large fuselage makes it very convenient for people like me who swap receivers throughout my planes. Adjusting the included pull-pull rudder system is also a breeze.
Unique Features
Definitely the most unique feature of the ARF is the included wing bags! Carry around your wings in style, and keep them safe! Another unique features of this airplane is the stunningly sharp trim scheme. Available in the orange and black scheme or the red and white scheme, both look amazing. The included carbon fiber wing tube mates into a fiberglass recipient tube that I in three parts (already installed): one going through the fuselage, and one in each wing. My wing tube fit perfectly, just the right diameter for a good snug fit. It was 1/8” too long though, but that was easily fixed with a fine-tooth hacksaw-per 3DHobbyShops recommendation after contacting their excellent customer service. If you use the recommended Hitec HS-85MG servos, which I highly recommend, they are a perfect fit into the pre-cut servo mounting bays. The recommended DuBro 672 Hitec Long Super-Strength arms give just the right amount of control surface throw, and in the manual they even recommend which hole on the arm to insert the included ball link control rods. The rudder can also be a push-pull setup using the 2nd rudder servo bay, but that requires you to buy your own linkages and install without any instructions. All of the control surfaces come with CA hinges already glued into the control surface itself, which just leaves you to glue them into the plane. Very surprisingly, I did not need to use the drill for this build, except I used a top of the line Motrofly motor which required me to relocate the pre-installed blind nuts, which was very simple. 3DHobbyShop includes many decals for you to apply, and they leave it up to you which ones to put on and where to put them. They even include a few vinyl decals that look very nice. The Slick comes with foam wheels to keep weight down and keep performance up, that easily install with the included wrench on aluminum axles. This plane is extremely forgiving on the center of gravity placement. I slid the battery way to the back of the tray, and way to the front of the tray, and could still easily control the aircraft. It is all personal preference, some people like it more aft and some more forward. The steerable tailwheel is very nice, although even after applying loctite per the manual’s recommendation it still came loose! I put one drop of thin CA in the threads, and it has been holding up fine for severaly flights now. This is definitely one of the easiest builds that I’ve done. It is easy to make a mistake, but if you follow the manual that can be printed out on 3DHobbyShop’s website you won’t miss a thing. Always remember, the more precise you build a plane, the more precise it will fly. The way the manual suggests to mount the cowl makes it very easy, and I found that once you have the cowl exactly how you want it, put some tape on it to keep it secure while installing the screws.

“CLICK TRIP” (Quick Tip?)
I used the extremely powerful Motrofly motor for this build. It requires you to move the blind nuts. What I did was 1. I soaked the wooden “donuts” that held the blind nuts with debonder. 2, I used a soldering iron and stuck it in the blind nut to heat up the rest of the epoxy or CA that may not have been “debonded”. Then, I used a strong knife to pry the donuts off. I then took my X mount and a large drill bit that fit perfectly in the X mount center hole and the firewall center hole to line up the center perfectly. I drilled my holes for the four mounting screws, and glued the blind nuts/wooden donuts in the newly drilled holes. I then installed my motor.

IN THE AIR
When I first saw how low, slow, and steady this thing could knife edge, I was stunned, sitting there with my mouth hanging wide open. After my pass, everyone at the field started clapping and asking where I got it/what plane it was. They were also stunned to see how well it handled in the hands of me, a thirteen year old! Everyone kept asking “When are you going to fly the Slick again?”
On my first flight, it needed 2 clicks of rudder trim and 3 clicks of aileron trim. It is definitely one of the most “floaty” planes I’ve flown. It just wanted to stay in the air! (A good thing, right?!) It landed like a trainer, took lots of airspace and came in nice and slow, a nice gentle touchdown on the tarmac was easily acquired. Our clubs runway is a paved surface, a 120x70ft slab of tarmac.

Tracking: WOW-this plane is so smooth and agile, and I could swear it flies on rails! When I hit rudder, it TURNS. When I hit ailerons, it ROLLS, no messing around!
Aerobatics: On low rates, this is a great all around plane to do mild aerobatics for the relaxing type of flying style. You can even fly it scale-like, scaled to the full-scale Slick 540. I can fly a very fast unlimited vertical at just below ¾ throttle, and I still haven’t had the nerve to try full throttle yet! Now, flip the switch to high rates. This little guy can just go! I would definitely classify it as “violent”! With the large rudder, and the smooth and crisp aileron control, 4 point rolls were a breeze. Rolling harriers are definitely the easiest of all the planes I’ve flown.
Glide and Stall Performance: Typical with aerobatic planes, stalling is at a pretty slow speed. I actually had a hard time trying to get it to drop a wing! When coming in to land, just get lined up, cut throttle completely, give some up elevator and slowly relax it just as you would a trainer-style plane.
Pilot Debriefing: With the Slick trimmed out, it will fly hands off perfectly straight. What I really like about the Slick is that I can perform smooth, agile and graceful aerobatics on low rates and very high speeds. Then I can flick it up into high rates and it flips and twists and rolls and rotates every which way. Then go back into low rates for near full throttle inverted passes.
Conclusion:
The 3DHS 51 Slick will ALWAYS come along with me to the field. It is an excellent all-around plane. After building and setup, the total time was only around nine hours. It was a very simple and straightforward build in my opinion. I would definitely recommend getting the Motrofly 3615-750 lightened version. With the lightened version, you don’t have to move the blind nuts. All in all, this plane is a great plane for the avid 3D hobbyist or the leisure circle or even scale flyer.

Highlights: WING BAGS! Carbon fiber landing gear and tail wheel strut, 2 piece removable wing, Perfectly covered, not one wrinkle.

Gear Used:
Radio: Futaba 7C 2.4 GHz FASST system with R617FS receiver and four Hitec HS-85MG servos
Motor: Motrofly DM3615-750KV motor (available from Subsonicplanes.com)
Battery: Zippy 4S 2650mAh 45C LiPo
Prop: APC 15x6
Extreme Flight 52mm Black Spinner

Specs:
Model: 51” AJ Slick
Manufacturer: 3DHobbyShop
Distributor: 3DHobbyShop.com
Type: Mid-Wing Aerobatic
Wingspan: 51”
Wing area: 535 sq. inches
Length: 51”
Weight: 55-63oz RTF
Wing Loading: Not specified
Radio req’d: 4ch capable of dual rates
Power req’d: Hacker A30-12XL or equivalent (Motrofly 3615-750, same weight, more power)
Price: $239.99
Very nicely written Alex. You my friend are going far in life.

If you need any good Slick pics for your article please PM me. I have thousands. Literally...

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Old Sep 06, 2012, 12:21 AM
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Outstanding! More exposure for this fantastic hobby and 3DHS is a goooood thing.

So how did you get called upon to do something like this? Sounds like fun and an honor all rolled into one in front of a huge crowd.
long story, one thing leads to another... started as a call around for some public announcements for the FLI this weekend... radio station was interested in the PSA, things escalated, shifted, and before we knew it the radio dude opened an opportunity for a demo at a ball park. Announcer read off the details of the plane, explained about the FLI, all great. The ballpark demo opportunity came up at 10am this morning, and Ron (DaOldGuy here on RCG, also SCRC's club pres) didn't let the opportunity slide by. He was on the ball for sure.

Looking at my phone, I first knew of the ballpark demo at 10am this morning. I'z not complaining
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Old Sep 06, 2012, 12:37 AM
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long story, one thing leads to another... started as a call around for some public announcements for the FLI this weekend... radio station was interested in the PSA, things escalated, shifted, and before we knew it the radio dude opened an opportunity for a demo at a ball park. Announcer read off the details of the plane, explained about the FLI, all great. The ballpark demo opportunity came up at 10am this morning, and Ron (DaOldGuy here on RCG, also SCRC's club pres) didn't let the opportunity slide by. He was on the ball for sure.

Looking at my phone, I first knew of the ballpark demo at 10am this morning. I'z not complaining
You weren't kidding about it happening fast. Way to step up and fly fun and safe.

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Old Sep 06, 2012, 01:06 AM
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Great Job on the review Alex!!

And great job on the flight Demo Arron!!

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Old Sep 06, 2012, 05:49 AM
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Hey guys..wanna proofread my review before I send it off to Model Airplane news?
Thanks!

Intro

Population of electric aerobatic flight continues to grow all over the world. A few years ago, 3DHobbyShop came out with its stunning new design of the Andrew Jesky 51” Slick. This little aerobatic champ seems quite a bit bigger than your typical .40 sized planes. The large and “roomy” fuselage makes its presence seem like a much larger plane-even in the air. With carbon fiber landing gear and tail wheel strut, very “slick” landings are very easy to achieve. Constructed of balsa and ply, this bird can take the accidental “3 point” on a landing mishap, or “when the wind kinda catches it”. The included fiberglass cowl is very nicely made, the trim scheme lines up perfectly and the cowl paint even perfectly matches the genuine UltraCote covering! And to top it all off, those wonderful no-blemish fiberglass wheelpants are included also. The very first thing I noticed when I picked the fuselage up out of the box was how light it was! Even with the tailfeathers, servos, battery, ESC and motor installed it was still very surprisingly light, but still one of the strongest planes I’ve owned! With the included carbon fiber wing spar, anti rotation pins together with the aluminum thumb bolts for the wings, you can be confident that your wings will stay attached, even in the most violent maneuvers. The large fuselage makes it very convenient for people like me who swap receivers throughout my planes. Adjusting the included pull-pull rudder system is also a breeze.
Unique Features
Definitely the most unique feature of the ARF is the included wing bags! Carry around your wings in style, and keep them safe! Another unique features of this airplane is the stunningly sharp trim scheme. Available in the orange and black scheme or the red and white scheme, both look amazing. The included carbon fiber wing tube mates into a fiberglass recipient tube that I in three parts (already installed): one going through the fuselage, and one in each wing. My wing tube fit perfectly, just the right diameter for a good snug fit. It was 1/8” too long though, but that was easily fixed with a fine-tooth hacksaw-per 3DHobbyShops recommendation after contacting their excellent customer service. If you use the recommended Hitec HS-85MG servos, which I highly recommend, they are a perfect fit into the pre-cut servo mounting bays. The recommended DuBro 672 Hitec Long Super-Strength arms give just the right amount of control surface throw, and in the manual they even recommend which hole on the arm to insert the included ball link control rods. The rudder can also be a push-pull setup using the 2nd rudder servo bay, but that requires you to buy your own linkages and install without any instructions. All of the control surfaces come with CA hinges already glued into the control surface itself, which just leaves you to glue them into the plane. Very surprisingly, I did not need to use the drill for this build, except I used a top of the line Motrofly motor which required me to relocate the pre-installed blind nuts, which was very simple. 3DHobbyShop includes many decals for you to apply, and they leave it up to you which ones to put on and where to put them. They even include a few vinyl decals that look very nice. The Slick comes with foam wheels to keep weight down and keep performance up, that easily install with the included wrench on aluminum axles. This plane is extremely forgiving on the center of gravity placement. I slid the battery way to the back of the tray, and way to the front of the tray, and could still easily control the aircraft. It is all personal preference, some people like it more aft and some more forward. The steerable tailwheel is very nice, although even after applying loctite per the manual’s recommendation it still came loose! I put one drop of thin CA in the threads, and it has been holding up fine for severaly flights now. This is definitely one of the easiest builds that I’ve done. It is easy to make a mistake, but if you follow the manual that can be printed out on 3DHobbyShop’s website you won’t miss a thing. Always remember, the more precise you build a plane, the more precise it will fly. The way the manual suggests to mount the cowl makes it very easy, and I found that once you have the cowl exactly how you want it, put some tape on it to keep it secure while installing the screws.

“CLICK TRIP” (Quick Tip?)
I used the extremely powerful Motrofly motor for this build. It requires you to move the blind nuts. What I did was 1. I soaked the wooden “donuts” that held the blind nuts with debonder. 2, I used a soldering iron and stuck it in the blind nut to heat up the rest of the epoxy or CA that may not have been “debonded”. Then, I used a strong knife to pry the donuts off. I then took my X mount and a large drill bit that fit perfectly in the X mount center hole and the firewall center hole to line up the center perfectly. I drilled my holes for the four mounting screws, and glued the blind nuts/wooden donuts in the newly drilled holes. I then installed my motor.

IN THE AIR
When I first saw how low, slow, and steady this thing could knife edge, I was stunned, sitting there with my mouth hanging wide open. After my pass, everyone at the field started clapping and asking where I got it/what plane it was. They were also stunned to see how well it handled in the hands of me, a thirteen year old! Everyone kept asking “When are you going to fly the Slick again?”
On my first flight, it needed 2 clicks of rudder trim and 3 clicks of aileron trim. It is definitely one of the most “floaty” planes I’ve flown. It just wanted to stay in the air! (A good thing, right?!) It landed like a trainer, took lots of airspace and came in nice and slow, a nice gentle touchdown on the tarmac was easily acquired. Our clubs runway is a paved surface, a 120x70ft slab of tarmac.

Tracking: WOW-this plane is so smooth and agile, and I could swear it flies on rails! When I hit rudder, it TURNS. When I hit ailerons, it ROLLS, no messing around!
Aerobatics: On low rates, this is a great all around plane to do mild aerobatics for the relaxing type of flying style. You can even fly it scale-like, scaled to the full-scale Slick 540. I can fly a very fast unlimited vertical at just below ¾ throttle, and I still haven’t had the nerve to try full throttle yet! Now, flip the switch to high rates. This little guy can just go! I would definitely classify it as “violent”! With the large rudder, and the smooth and crisp aileron control, 4 point rolls were a breeze. Rolling harriers are definitely the easiest of all the planes I’ve flown.
Glide and Stall Performance: Typical with aerobatic planes, stalling is at a pretty slow speed. I actually had a hard time trying to get it to drop a wing! When coming in to land, just get lined up, cut throttle completely, give some up elevator and slowly relax it just as you would a trainer-style plane.
Pilot Debriefing: With the Slick trimmed out, it will fly hands off perfectly straight. What I really like about the Slick is that I can perform smooth, agile and graceful aerobatics on low rates and very high speeds. Then I can flick it up into high rates and it flips and twists and rolls and rotates every which way. Then go back into low rates for near full throttle inverted passes.
Conclusion:
The 3DHS 51 Slick will ALWAYS come along with me to the field. It is an excellent all-around plane. After building and setup, the total time was only around nine hours. It was a very simple and straightforward build in my opinion. I would definitely recommend getting the Motrofly 3615-750 lightened version. With the lightened version, you don’t have to move the blind nuts. All in all, this plane is a great plane for the avid 3D hobbyist or the leisure circle or even scale flyer.

Highlights: WING BAGS! Carbon fiber landing gear and tail wheel strut, 2 piece removable wing, Perfectly covered, not one wrinkle.

Gear Used:
Radio: Futaba 7C 2.4 GHz FASST system with R617FS receiver and four Hitec HS-85MG servos
Motor: Motrofly DM3615-750KV motor (available from Subsonicplanes.com)
Battery: Zippy 4S 2650mAh 45C LiPo
Prop: APC 15x6
Extreme Flight 52mm Black Spinner

Specs:
Model: 51” AJ Slick
Manufacturer: 3DHobbyShop
Distributor: 3DHobbyShop.com
Type: Mid-Wing Aerobatic
Wingspan: 51”
Wing area: 535 sq. inches
Length: 51”
Weight: 55-63oz RTF
Wing Loading: Not specified
Radio req’d: 4ch capable of dual rates
Power req’d: Hacker A30-12XL or equivalent (Motrofly 3615-750, same weight, more power)
Price: $239.99

I think you did a great Job! I have a 42 slick and been thinking of getting a 51, after reading no more thinking. It will be ordered soon.
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Old Sep 06, 2012, 05:55 AM
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it was awesome fun. unsure if the video will turn out all that great, but the flying wasn't what usually rolls the in-crowd's socks up an down: it was short notice and they could only allow me to fly outside the stadium, so I had to fly at least as high as the short wall to be seen... and it wasn't an RC enthusiast crowd, so it didn't get technical, just big, fun maneuvers.

most fun was the opening... flying WOT at the stadium wall, low to stay hidden, and then pull up at the last second as the opener. highly amusing.


the opener as seen from inside the park...

I would love to see that live, great job!
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I would love to see that live, great job!
Turns out that 2 of the SCRC Club members were in attendance at the game <had no idea it was happening> and reported back that it was outstanding.

The Radio station that started this was there and emailed us last night, they were blown away and still wants a demo at the station and to do an interview with theKM.
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Old Sep 06, 2012, 06:40 AM
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Turns out that 2 of the SCRC Club members were in attendance at the game <had no idea it was happening> and reported back that it was outstanding.

The Radio station that started this was there and emailed us last night, they were blown away and still wants a demo at the station and to do an interview with theKM.
Thats great! I think so many people just think flying is just going around in circles. Glad to see model flying is getting some spot light.
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It landed like a trainer, took lots of airspace and came in nice and slow, a nice gentle touchdown on the tarmac was easily acquired. Our clubs runway is a paved surface, a 120x70ft slab of tarmac.
I don't understand
" It landed like a trainer, took lots of airspace and came in nice and slow"


Nice review though
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wow, nicely written, you should be proud, at 13, wow.
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Very nicely written Alex. You my friend are going far in life.

If you need any good Slick pics for your article please PM me. I have thousands. Literally...

-Buzzed
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Great Job on the review Alex!!

And great job on the flight Demo Arron!!

SteveT
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Buzzed-I PM'd you!

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I think you did a great Job! I have a 42 slick and been thinking of getting a 51, after reading no more thinking. It will be ordered soon.
That's what its's there for! Thanks!
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I don't understand
" It landed like a trainer, took lots of airspace and came in nice and slow"


Nice review though
Thanks!!
I will try to fix that.
There are a few rough spots. My goal there was to say that it took its time gliding in. It came in nice and slow-like a trainer. And it seems like trainers glide forever-right?
That was my goal...I'll try to re-word it. Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks!
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It landed like a trainer, came in nice and slow
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Thank you, I will edit that!
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Thank you, I will edit that!
Also - you need to change "... our clubs runway" to "...our club's runway"
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I am posting this on here as I know a lot of you have gone to other flying sites for different fly-ins. I am trying to come up with some ideas for my club to 1 not loose members 2 attract new members and 3 how to get a bigger and better fly-in to generate more income for the club. I thought by posting on here I could get what some of you have seen along with ideas. I am open for anything so please send me a pm with what you have or think. Thanks for the help.

My goal is to make our club better and one of the best around northern Indiana.

Thanks again for any ideas you send my way. Also what was done to put on one of the 3d fly-ins/ huckfest?
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