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Old Jul 29, 2012, 08:10 AM
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What's your plane, the one pictured in post #853?
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Old Jul 29, 2012, 09:09 AM
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Not sure about a thread. However, the F4U is overweight as it is. Switching to the AWS3X brick and mandatory AS3X aileron servos will make it even heavier. One would need a Bravo SX motor for anything resembling warbird performance. Also - the Spit's brick is mounted on-edge. I doubt that the F4U's fuse is tall enough. The ASK-21 brick is essentially the same as the Spit's, but it's set up for horizontal mounting. Problem is, AS3X programming for a 3' span sailplane probably won't work very well in a 16" span warbird. However - the AR6410NBL brick that's used in the MiG is user-programmable. There will be downloadable AS3X programs to cover a range of airframe types - such as 'slowflyer' '3D' 'EDF', etc. You just pick the program that works the best in your application & load it into the brick via the USB to X-port programming cable. There has been talk of the other AS3X bricks also being user-programmable, but I'm not aware of any official word on that. If it turns out that the others are in fact programmable, it may be possible to use the ASK-21 brick in the F4U and download a new program that's better-suited for a warbird.

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Thanks Joel. So, I'll need a mig brick or the AR6410NBL brick + 2 AS3X servos (I've got an older corsair) to make it work, plus a likely power upgrade. MIght be the most expensive used airplane I'll ever own. I've got about 5 burnt out motors waiting at home for me to send to RC babel for some SX upgrades for a few of my birds - the Corsair will likely get the first one (and I'll be saving one back for the Spitfire, just in case.)

Sorry so far off topic.
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Old Jul 29, 2012, 10:35 AM
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Thanks Joel. So, I'll need a mig brick or the AR6410NBL brick + 2 AS3X servos (I've got an older corsair) to make it work, plus a likely power upgrade. MIght be the most expensive used airplane I'll ever own. I've got about 5 burnt out motors waiting at home for me to send to RC babel for some SX upgrades for a few of my birds - the Corsair will likely get the first one (and I'll be saving one back for the Spitfire, just in case.)

Sorry so far off topic.
You're welcome! But you don't want the AR6410NBL. It doesn't have AS3X, and it's 2s brushless. The MiG's AS6410NBL brick is also 2s brushless. Also - both bricks are servoless, so they require a full set of AS3X servos. You'd want the ASK-21's EFLU1264 brick with the 'warbird' program installed, or the Spit's PKZU2164 brick with the orientation changed to 'horizontal' via the programming software (assuming that the EFLU1264 & PKZU2164 are in fact programmable, as Spektrum's brick compatability chart suggests):





See the the MiG 15 thread & the first post in RealGambler's AS3X FAQ thread for details about the programming interface & the downloadable programs.

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Old Jul 29, 2012, 02:13 PM
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What's your plane, the one pictured in post #853?
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Yes, the picture is from the UM F4U thread. I hope the Spitfire flies as well as the new edition of the F4U, as that will make for one sweet warbird.
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 06:45 PM
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I can't believe this still isn't out yet

Ridiculous !
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 07:14 PM
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agreed!
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 07:45 PM
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Me too, I think they should have released it already, but with defective servos like the Carbon Cub. I do prefer to have a defective airplane early rather than waiting for a functional one with good servos! C'mon HH!
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Old Aug 18, 2012, 06:47 AM
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Me too, I think they should have released it already, but with defective servos like the Carbon Cub. I do prefer to have a defective airplane early rather than waiting for a functional one with good servos! C'mon HH!
Lol. +1. What the hell else are we gonna talk about on this forum if everything works properly!
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Old Aug 18, 2012, 09:03 AM
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Lol. +1. What the hell else are we gonna talk about on this forum if everything works properly!
-1 I prefer to have e long wait but a perfect plane
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Old Aug 18, 2012, 10:37 AM
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If they'd have released the plane earlier, it would have most likely ended up with servos from the bad batch. That would have really pissed everyone off. So, they did the right thing & delayed the release until they get the servo debacle straightened-out. And then people find something wrong with that.

I am very glad that they delayed the release. It was the proper thing to do, given the situation. This should be a no-brainer to anyone on here who has even a shred of business sense.

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Old Aug 18, 2012, 12:33 PM
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sounds like a hanger queen to me!
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Old Aug 18, 2012, 01:54 PM
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Has HH posted what the real cause for the delay is?
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Old Aug 18, 2012, 06:06 PM
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If they'd have released the plane earlier, it would have most likely ended up with servos from the bad batch. That would have really pissed everyone off. So, they did the right thing & delayed the release until they get the servo debacle straightened-out. And then people find something wrong with that.

I am very glad that they delayed the release. It was the proper thing to do, given the situation. This should be a no-brainer to anyone on here who has even a shred of business sense.

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completely agree - bad reviews and lost loyalty kill a business. easier to keep a customer than get a new one. i just need some help getting the spitfires out of my dreams
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Old Aug 18, 2012, 07:28 PM
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Has HH posted what the real cause for the delay is?
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Quite some time ago, the director of aircraft development posted in CC thread that the servo issue was caused by the manufacturer skipping an established QC process. That's why the CC & Beast were on backorder for so long, and that's why the AS3X bricks w/integrated tail servos were also unavailable. Given that the same servos are used in all of the AS3X planes, it is reasonable to think that the servo problem is likely what has caused the delay with the Spit & ASK-21.

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Old Aug 18, 2012, 09:19 PM
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If you are looking for a great flying Spit just buy the nine eagles parts from HK and put the micro P-51 guts in it. It flies great that way. Should hold you over till this one is available.
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