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Old Oct 04, 2012, 07:39 PM
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You sure? Ive never heard of a pager motor having cogging. The cooling holes you see have been standard on there 8.5mm black endbells for a while, your mustang is probably from before that time, since the mustang was the first 8.5mm black endbell.
sorry, not cogging but does have more "resistance" when I turn over the gear box
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 07:59 PM
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Ok, i feel like that's just the gearbox. Ive had pager/gearbox setups from horizon hobby go from silky smooth to gunky, and once the pinion wasnt straight! Also pager motors tend to have a 10% variance in output power. BL55, becuase the gear box is close, you might want to add some lube, or even better, use some dry lubricant. Also make sure the shaft is not on too tight, you want a little forward backward play in it.
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 09:24 PM
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I like someones comment about a 1s in runner to replace the stock brushed motor

OK, just put on the P-51 2 blader but looks a little off...
and off to the park.. give me about a half hour to come back for a flight report..
by the way, I can't get the 4 blader to fit the P-51 and I will show why when I get back...

Maybe I missed it, but how did it fly with the mustang prop?
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 09:25 PM
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This might be kind of off topic, but how important is it I have a spinner on these micros?
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 09:43 PM
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This might be kind of off topic, but how important is it I have a spinner on these micros?
At this scale and flying speeds---Not important at all...

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Old Oct 04, 2012, 09:45 PM
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This might be kind of off topic, but how important is it I have a spinner on these micros?
It adds some extra cushion to a crash which kinda helps protect the related parts...

I haven't got to crash mine yet (I would have had the first major crash considering my skill level, and I could have commented on the durability) as we rescued a dog from the pound this morning and a couple hours later the plane showed up at the door. It'll be a few weeks until I can fly since we have all the fun dog training stuff to do I'll be hounding this thread even more feverously now
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 09:45 PM
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Ok, i feel like that's just the gearbox. Ive had pager/gearbox setups from horizon hobby go from silky smooth to gunky, and once the pinion wasnt straight! Also pager motors tend to have a 10% variance in output power. BL55, becuase the gear box is close, you might want to add some lube, or even better, use some dry lubricant. Also make sure the shaft is not on too tight, you want a little forward backward play in it.
to me it feels like the motor has more magnet power....
not the gears..
I did do a lube job on it yesterday
thank you
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 09:52 PM
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Maybe I missed it, but how did it fly with the mustang prop?
nothing missed
well I took it out, and had a pocket full of lipos with me
but only used 2 for about 2min each
2blade prop not impressed
it maybe had a tad more thrust but that was it and possibly slower
almost made a nice loop... "almost"

and take a look at these pictures... do we think this could be the biggest reason this 4 blade (cool looking) Spitfire is having issues vs my P-51?
cuz seriously my P-51 has lots more zip than the Spit


can someone figure out the % difference in weight for me?
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 09:59 PM
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The Spit is 145% of the Mustang or 45% heavier
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 10:15 PM
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The Spit is 145% of the Mustang or 45% heavier
WOW, thank you!

so maybe this is why me and a couple others feel like this plane feels sluggish in the air...
and why my P-51 is faster...
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 10:18 PM
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I would really love to see a brushless upgrade of this plane. The only big issues are weight and where to store a battery.

As soon as someone figures it out, I'll probably follow their lead.
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 10:34 PM
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I'm telling you guys put in a bravo sx motor in it first. I still haven't maimed mine, weather has been crappy! Fly her stock if I want more grabbing an sx motor from rcbabbel.
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Old Oct 05, 2012, 12:15 AM
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BL55, the weight of the spit was released along with all info, it is has never been a secret, and has been much discussed and has caused alot of the anticipation along with the four blade if it would be fast enough to fly scale, since we could tell from the parts listing that the motor and gearbox is the same as their previous micro warbirds. The weight is in all the scale details over the mustang, the plastic guns, the plastic clear canopy, gear doors, are the intercoolers plastic? So that also explains why the UM corsair is so heavy, but the spit weighs even more becuase of the weight of the larger servos that the AS3X demands.
If you buy an SX motor from rc babbel, thats $130 for an as3x, ultra scale, powerful enough for authoritative scale flying micro Spitfire!
EDIT: oh! and the plastic exhuasts
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Old Oct 05, 2012, 12:20 AM
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BL55, the weight of the spit was released along with all info, it is has never been a secret
who said it was???
just sharing some light on why this is not as fast as we thought it might be
and this is something not talked about since it was released...
some are selling them cuz of the lack of performance from this plane, and some want to know why..
this is why we have these forums to share what we are finding for our selves
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Old Oct 05, 2012, 12:33 AM
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Well, i shouldnt say since it was "released." I should say when the information page on Horizonhobby.com was released. The weight+four bladed prop was discussed and anticipated as something we thought would make it sluggish, but hoped there was magic in the prop, i would say it was the main question we had after HH released the info. Im sorry if my previous post seemed to look down a bit on you, i think i was just a little irked that you thought the weight difference was a discovery, sometimes its hard for anyone to realize that re-explaining things is not a bad thing, and everyone takes in information at different rates, especially on the information hungry internet.
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