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Old Feb 09, 2012, 03:00 PM
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My flying buddy has v1 and has been chased by monarch butterflies on a few occasions . I have tried to video them but there always to far away to see them in the videos. One day !!!!
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Old Feb 10, 2012, 01:50 AM
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Did anyone else notice that on the Carbon Cub video it says "includes tow bracket for UM Sailplanes....... Shown with UMX ASK21 EFLU1280"

does this mean that we can expect more sailplanes? um radian ?
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Old Feb 10, 2012, 02:05 AM
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Did anyone else notice that on the Carbon Cub video it says "includes tow bracket for UM Sailplanes....... Shown with UMX ASK21 EFLU1280"

does this mean that we can expect more sailplanes? um radian ?
Yup. The release video shows the CC towing the ASK-21. A number of us have both planes on pre-order.

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Old Feb 10, 2012, 06:32 AM
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who else thinks we need autopilot with auto landing capabilities. Plus spectrum now needs to make a switching radio so you can pull the glider up hit the switch and fly the glider while the plane lands its self....ha ha ha right...that would be the day
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Old Feb 10, 2012, 10:34 AM
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who else thinks we need autopilot with auto landing capabilities. Plus spectrum now needs to make a switching radio so you can pull the glider up hit the switch and fly the glider while the plane lands its self....ha ha ha right...that would be the day
Would be very cool - but we'd need a pretty smart autopilot in the glider, as somebody or something has to fly it during the tow.

Towing an RC glider is not a trivial task. There will likely be a good number of, shall we say, 'eventful towing attempts' made by those who have never done it before. Worst-case - there will be quite a few banged-up Carbon Cubs & ASK-21s. Best-case - the number of capable RC glider-tug pilots will expand dramatically. Will be interesting to see how that pans out.

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Old Feb 10, 2012, 10:45 AM
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I don't know from gliders.

The CC/ASK-21 combo concept intrigues me.

But, a threshold question:

With no motor in this glider, isn't there a big risk that many fliers with little experience - or with small or difficult landing areas - will be unable to get their gliders back to their landing spots?

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Old Feb 10, 2012, 10:56 AM
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Nice Pugsam,

Thats part of aerotow though for you, and part of the fun. Its a little different with a 2 meter, or even better yet a 3-5m scale plane but I dont see many people having to go a great distance to get the little guy back. Also wind is going to play a factor depending on how well this guy penetrates in a breeze.
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Old Feb 10, 2012, 11:45 AM
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I think the worst thing is having a newbie pilot the sail plane. If they don't know what they're doing they can drag you all over the sky. The sail plane pilot does'nt have to do much.. MMM would be a good time for a super micro aerial cam. Could get some good shots of the cub doing its work.

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Would be very cool - but we'd need a pretty smart autopilot in the glider, as somebody or something has to fly it during the tow.

Towing an RC glider is not a trivial task. There will likely be a good number of, shall we say, 'eventful towing attempts' made by those who have never done it before. Worst-case - there will be quite a few banged-up Carbon Cubs & ASK-21s. Best-case - the number of capable RC glider-tug pilots will expand dramatically. Will be interesting to see how that pans out.

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Old Feb 10, 2012, 12:14 PM
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I think the worst thing is having a newbie pilot the sail plane. If they don't know what they're doing they can drag you all over the sky. The sail plane pilot does'nt have to do much.. MMM would be a good time for a super micro aerial cam. Could get some good shots of the cub doing its work.
Particularly since the tow line is pushing against the rudder! I know that I will have a hard time not giving a little nudge, everynow and then, when I'm controlling the ASK while a friend is flying the Cub...
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Old Feb 10, 2012, 12:56 PM
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You can see a little bit of the ASK-21 in the latest Horizon video (about 1/3rd) along with Cub, Spit, Mig, and Cub.
HorizonHobby.com On the Horizon - 2-9-12 (53 min 30 sec)
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Old Feb 10, 2012, 01:15 PM
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Would be very cool - but we'd need a pretty smart autopilot in the glider, as somebody or something has to fly it during the tow.

Towing an RC glider is not a trivial task. There will likely be a good number of, shall we say, 'eventful towing attempts' made by those who have never done it before. Worst-case - there will be quite a few banged-up Carbon Cubs & ASK-21s. Best-case - the number of capable RC glider-tug pilots will expand dramatically. Will be interesting to see how that pans out.

Joel
You can count me among those who've had "eventful towing attempts." Experience in full scale was no help. I won't describe the whole thing, but that's the first time I did a tail slide off tow. Good thing the tug was massively overpowered and able to fly lugging me by the nose. 4 meter ASK 28-18 that later got wrecked on the ground when a runaway tug ran into it.

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Old Feb 10, 2012, 01:30 PM
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Yup. The release video shows the CC towing the ASK-21. A number of us have both planes on pre-order.

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i know about the CC im just making a point that it mentions the tow point for "UM sailplanes"!
meaning not just for the ask-21...... maybe we can expect more sailplanes. especially if the as3x/rx board is without an Esc.
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Old Feb 10, 2012, 01:45 PM
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i know about the CC im just making a point that it mentions the tow point for "UM sailplanes"!
meaning not just for the ask-21...... maybe we can expect more sailplanes. especially if the as3x/rx board is without an Esc.
It's been confirmed that there's a ESC onboard. But this mean nothing since they still made the ASK anyway. I could see a motorized glider with folding prop in the future though. Unclip the motor spinner assembly, clip a new nose and tow behind the Cub as needed.

Here's a picture of the board, showing the black connector with 3 pins (so brusless possible???)


Another interesting fact on that picture: You can see the offset servos for the ailerons, the normal servos on the receiver, but the release servo is way off on one side.... Is that a different servo (one way or the other). There's no battery plugged in...
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Old Feb 10, 2012, 01:49 PM
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I know this is OT, but watching the firebird stratos portion of that video with quique, it seems like this stratos is a stepup in learning to fly, the virtual instructor system seems both moderate, smooth, and a million times better than ACT. If it came as BNF i might by it.
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Old Feb 10, 2012, 02:05 PM
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It does not have an esc by the looks of it, Also the release servo is the one located in front. On any other as3x board the esc portion would be towards the front of the plane like pictured below, looks like this board is actually shorter than the one pictured below which I believe is off the beast. Also the battery clip is there, its just turned around.

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