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Old Jan 05, 2013, 02:35 PM
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It has to be somewhere around there. I'm almost sure its 10:2

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I talked to Mitch today up in IL he said its a 10 to 1. There done this way for torque and quick take-off. I guess thats why the kart tracks are geared for the karts and not other rc with mostly. To me its fast enough on our track. I can't imagine anything more.


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Old Jan 05, 2013, 09:21 PM
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Didn't think it was that low but I guess when you think about it it makes sense on how the track is setup.



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Old Jan 06, 2013, 02:01 PM
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I know none of the straights are very long. The ones up in IL were 60 at best. I guess when you think about it the gearing is spot on and matches the track length perfect. This is probably why they run the motors they do.
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Old Jan 06, 2013, 02:20 PM
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My first race at Jacksonville the straightaways were much shorter than 60 ft. My guess is 40 ft. I remember not being able to get around a driver due to the shortness of the straight. I had to keep going outside. It needed to be longer. They had the room for it.


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Old Jan 07, 2013, 09:18 AM
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Well I bit the dug in my wallet and bought a new motor yesterday. Ordered it online. We'll see if it makes a difference. They didn't carry anything lower in kv so I'll be right up there now with the rest. The thing I do like its the same programing style as most of my racing rc I use. You have punch, drag, timing and all the goods. I'll play around with it and see whats up. It'll take two plus weeks for it to arrive. Until then back to my other.

And lead about Jacksonville they went short to keep the unexpected in the mix. Everyone thought Tate and the crew would setup a huge track until everyone showed up to race. The look on everyones face was priceless.



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Old Jan 07, 2013, 07:42 PM
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You bit the dug in your wallet? What the F? You mean you dug into your wallet? You've been off the meds again haven't you. Sounds to me you bought the digital card. Good call there really no different it has a screen thats bigger. I still use the basic card because I'm a cheap.

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Old Jan 09, 2013, 08:56 AM
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I know it should've been dug into my wallet right? You got the point Mott.



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Old Jan 09, 2013, 05:52 PM
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Someone in a previous post asked how I raced with such a slow motor or lower kv than that in the TERC rules? Actually, KV ratings are the motor's equivalent of C ratings for batteries. They might be useful if an independent lab took random over the counter motors and put them all through the exact same tests, then it might be informative, but that's not the case. Even a lower KV motor like the one I had (finally fried) can beat a higher kv depending on timing, gearing, battery, etc. In the case of me racing my kart I find it all in the timing and track layout to make the motor perform at its best. Motor temps are key also.


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Old Jan 10, 2013, 01:29 PM
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Someone in a previous post asked how I raced with such a slow motor or lower kv than that in the TERC rules? Actually, KV ratings are the motor's equivalent of C ratings for batteries. They might be useful if an independent lab took random over the counter motors and put them all through the exact same tests, then it might be informative, but that's not the case. Even a lower KV motor like the one I had (finally fried) can beat a higher kv depending on timing, gearing, battery, etc. In the case of me racing my kart I find it all in the timing and track layout to make the motor perform at its best. Motor temps are key also.


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It was me Toby and I still don't see how you do it. What about current draw if you jack up timing.


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Old Jan 11, 2013, 03:26 PM
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Am I wrong for saying then I can use a lower kv and be faster than what the rules allow? Toby or Double how much timing is pushing the limits on these? I don't want my motor to end up like yours Toby. I haven't had my kart for long.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 10:27 AM
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The easiest way I can explain to you without being technical is this. Lets say the motor in your kart is a low kv. A low kv motor will turn easily with little effort. Now lets take the higher kv and add the same kart power. The higher kv takes off slugish unless the gearing is set perfectly. They have the kv nailed down in my opinion for the karts and what they offer. Once again for those who want to leap on me and say I'm wrong in my statement. I am talking about this kart and not our touring cars we race or off road.



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Old Jan 12, 2013, 11:55 PM
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Maybe I'll catch ya at a track and you can explain better. I'm new at this rc thing but trying to take everything in I can. Theres so much to learn. I appreciate your effort Toby.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 12:24 AM
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Maybe I'll catch ya at a track and you can explain better. I'm new at this rc thing but trying to take everything in I can. Theres so much to learn. I appreciate your effort Toby.
I'd be glad to and in the mean time I can point you to a few info sites on brushless motors if you like.



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Old Jan 15, 2013, 06:43 PM
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Carl if you read this I lost your email. I thought I put it in my race bag when I left but I may have thrown it away by accident. You asked me about your cap? If its bad or going, caps usually have a bulging end, brown syrup-like material sometimes coming out of them (electrolytic fluid), or they're just plain blown open. If you find time send me an email and I can give you more info and number of caps you should run. Stay away from 95 and radio shack caps. Just send me a email and I'll further into detail.








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Old Jan 16, 2013, 08:18 PM
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My advice is go smaller in capacity and more in series you'll be better off.
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