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Old Nov 06, 2012, 09:52 AM
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Yes, I agree, but for me folding wasn't about pinching wires (on my DIY frames I used a small wire protector material like under the hood of your car). My problems was making the frame nice and stiff without having to break out the tools and dropping bolts/nuts/washers in the grass...

Sorry for so many, but another question is where do I order the zinger props? On TPacks once it is re-launched? I would love to try but I emailed Joe at http://www.zingerpropeller.com and they asked for my credit card number directly, which makes me very leary.
I carry zingers in 9-12" length and 4-5" pitch.


well, my view of folding is that you don't want to mess with folding at the field. it should be only used for airline travel or long distance travel. why I tend to like more compact multi that most. my main units are pair of shrimps and it is pretty compact to begin with. even lobster is smaller than most hexa. Y6 just lends itself to travel better IMHO compared to hexa.
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Old Nov 06, 2012, 12:37 PM
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When using the NAZA to control the AG Gimbal servos but want to use the power from a separate BEC or Lipo is the below wiring diagram correct? Do I need to be concern about using separate grounds?
Found what I was looking for in the wiring.

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Old Nov 06, 2012, 03:03 PM
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Folding

Some of us have small cars and have to fold! But it's only two bolts to remove and reinsert and I have butterfly nuts so easy at the field. Glued on washers on the frame to protect it from wear. Here is a pic - the little mast thing behind the GPS aerial is to protect it as it sits in the front trunk of my car. The ESC power cables are well secured and sized to flex. Takes about two minutes to transition from one state to the other.
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Old Nov 06, 2012, 04:38 PM
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Looks like you can transport it by motorcycle
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Old Nov 06, 2012, 05:12 PM
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folding forward is also pretty tight. that is how my shrimp is. (and very little chance of wire pinching folding forward. anyway, very nice looking setup you got there. very tight )

beside the wire pinch issues, the current design has crossbar inside the frame, which add lot of rigidity, which preclude folding back. every design, there is compromise. why there are so many frame to fit lot of people. the current lobster/crab is set for now, but we can look at more compact design in the future. square tube arm is much more amenable to folding design than round. carbon copter is also nice, but I really hate those pim nuts. I've seen some interesting designs for folders though and my come to fruition when I can find bit of extra bandwidth.
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Old Nov 06, 2012, 06:16 PM
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very nice looking setup you got there. very tight )
Thanks and thanks very much indeed for the V1.5 parts you kindly sent. That was above and beyond, I think. But unless I have it completely wrong, I think I need to drill new holes on my frame as the new plate doesn't extend so far out to the front and the two parts that take the anti vibe squishy bits sit much farther back than in the V1? Sorry if I have that wrong, I tried to find pics in this thread but it's so long.... also what is the square piece with the hole in the middle for?

Apologies for asking this as I'm sure you covered it but I can't find it in all these pages....
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Old Nov 06, 2012, 09:38 PM
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Strange question, but why do I see many setups using a gopro camera only to point at either the primary camera or as a seeming flight cam (example is Gary's post 5308). Is this being used to somehow document/record the AP process, or to line up shots, or???
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Old Nov 06, 2012, 09:50 PM
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Strange question, but why do I see many setups using a gopro camera only to point at either the primary camera or as a seeming flight cam (example is Gary's post 5308). Is this being used to somehow document/record the AP process, or to line up shots, or???
Some might be using another camera for FPV or to line up shots if the main camera has no video out, but Gary for example uses it to show how effective the vibration isolation from the gimbal is (vs gopro hard mounted) as well as how the gimbal counters the movements of the copter with roll and tilt...
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Old Nov 06, 2012, 09:51 PM
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In these cases, it's just to show the motion of the copter in comparison to the movement of the camera gimbal. It gives you a way of seeing how stable the gimbal is, while being able to see what the copter is doing. That's why you tend to see those shots in a picture in picture shot with the actual gimbal camera footage. Now I run two cameras, a NEX 5N and a GoPro on my copter so that I have a backup should one camera fail. It's also two camera documenting everything should I crash.
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Old Nov 06, 2012, 09:56 PM
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Interesting, I was thinking it was as a FPV cam, but was wondering why not use a regular SD camera. I assume that is the "lobster" in Gary's post? I have not been very successful in finding much info on it or the crab, and have been looking into the the Rusty's frames as well for potential y6 options.
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Old Nov 06, 2012, 11:36 PM
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When using the NAZA to control the AG Gimbal servos but want to use the power from a separate BEC or Lipo is the below wiring diagram correct? Do I need to be concern about using separate grounds?
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Yes. You need to have the ground wire connected to all three devices, Naza, BEC, Servo. If you do not, then the signal will not have a reference ground and you will get a jumpy servo.
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If the Naza & Bec are using the same ground/Lipo would that be correct? Or does the ground actually have to come out of the Naza & Bec to the servo?

What if I am using a separate battery? Would you want to connect the grounds form two separate Lipo's?
I connected the grounds and so far, everything is smooth. Here is a wiring diagram I came up with to use only servo Y connectors, and ultimately a more compact version that I made, which is essentially exactly the same connections. As it turns out, my "wiring diagram" is technically the same as in the AG550 manual. It pays to read the manual first .

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Old Nov 07, 2012, 12:40 AM
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I tried looking for the AG550 manual. Where may I locate it?
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Old Nov 07, 2012, 01:00 AM
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I tried looking for the AG550 manual. Where may I locate it?
Ok, I found the manual
http://www.rc-drones.com/AG550-NX-Assembly.pdf

The direction for the servo connections & grounds is for a separate a Gimbal Controller, so you would need the grounds. I am talking about the grounds from the Naza. I do not think you will need them.
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Old Nov 07, 2012, 07:00 AM
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Hello all members in this thread.

Because I was felt the ability limitations of my equipent(my skills too,off couse),I have just finished reading this thread from a few days ago to now.

It's a hard work for me to understand this thread more than 350 pages.

In this thread,there is a lot of useful hints to improve my rigs.
I'll try that I can do.
As the first, I'll add a regulator to destribute adequate voltage and current for servos.
And I should order dedicated gimbal controller.etc.etc.etc...
Off course I'm very interested AG700,AG600,And Lobster Y6.
And a few months later,I'll try these products,if i can.
I'm looking forward to Mr.Gary's new web site.

P.S. Sorry for my poor english.
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Old Nov 07, 2012, 10:10 AM
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The updated site is online now www.tppacks.com
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