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Old Jan 17, 2012, 09:08 AM
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- High-output E-flite 28mm Delta-V 180m EDF system
- AS3X System for ultra-smooth handling and precision
- Four-channel control including scale working rudder and nose wheel
- Fully engineered intake and exhaust ducting for maximum thrust
- High-speed brushless inrunner ducted fan motor, 11750Kv
- Near perfect scale outline, authentic detail, and graphics
- Includes high-power 2S Li-Po battery and fast charger
- Removable landing gear includes simulated gear doors
- Full Range 4+ Channel DSM2™/DSMX Aircraft Transmitter Required


some more spec's
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 09:10 AM
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- High-speed brushless inrunner ducted fan motor, 11750Kv
11750KV!! HOLY MOLY!!

I thought the 3000KV in my F-27Q was hot...

I'm interested in what kind of amp-draw that would have! Are these little JST connectors that come on the small UMX packs going to be enough?

That's amazing!
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 09:55 AM
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Hope you'll forgive this, being off-topic, but it's too awesome not to share with RCG.

Black Box Generated View of Sully's Hudson River Plane Landing.

Flight 1549 3D Reconstruction, Hudson River Ditching Jan 15, 2009 (7 min 22 sec)
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 10:17 AM
3D... the only way to fly!
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 10:21 AM
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11750KV!! HOLY MOLY!!

I thought the 3000KV in my F-27Q was hot...

I'm interested in what kind of amp-draw that would have! Are these little JST connectors that come on the small UMX packs going to be enough?

That's amazing!
Yeah... that's what I was thinking.
How about running this motor with a 3x3 prop on a 240mah/1s battery in a Polecat?
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 10:44 AM
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How that we know the specs of the motor, anyone want to guess/calculate the top speed of this baby?
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 10:48 AM
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How that we know the specs of the motor, anyone want to guess/calculate the top speed of this baby?
Someone did a doppler reading on it and got it around 40-49mph I think...
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 11:00 AM
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Someone did a doppler reading on it and got it around 40-49mph I think...
But thinking that is the top speed is assuming that the pilot was at WoT... which we dunno?
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 11:25 AM
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i was refering to the fact that the EDf F-4 arf is a bit late ,just wondering if the mig is due sooner...or later. also it would be nice if Dave could chime in over in the F-4 thread to tell us guys over there whats going on ...sorry to hijack the thread.
We were told at E-jets not to expect the Phantom until Feb. So I didn't get my hopes up for it coming earlier than that.

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Old Jan 17, 2012, 11:27 AM
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Hi Guys,

Here are a few notes on the AS3X system.

1. This new NBL board will be sold as a Spektrum open stock receiver. There will be downloadable set-ups for various models/types and enough flexability to adjust it to specific servo/linkage settings so the sensors work in the proper direction. i.e. for the scratch builder and guy that wants to experiment with it in different models.

2. The system will not have the ability to switch it off. But the question really is why would you want to? There is no circumstance where its desirable. The model flies (significantly) better with AS3X in all situations.

3. When AS3X is initialized, the model only has to be held motionless for about 5 seconds. However the attitude is not important. Any attitude is fine as long as its motionless.

I'll let Mr. Payne elabrate more on specifics of the MiG in due time. Suffice to say, it is really impressive. We have flown several of them now and never cease to be amazed by how well it flies.....both quite fast and slow speed handeling.
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 12:15 PM
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Hi Guys,

Here are a few notes on the AS3X system.

1. This new NBL board will be sold as a Spektrum open stock receiver. There will be downloadable set-ups for various models/types and enough flexability to adjust it to specific servo/linkage settings so the sensors work in the proper direction. i.e. for the scratch builder and guy that wants to experiment with it in different models.

2. The system will not have the ability to switch it off. But the question really is why would you want to? There is no circumstance where its desirable. The model flies (significantly) better with AS3X in all situations.

3. When AS3X is initialized, the model only has to be held motionless for about 5 seconds. However the attitude is not important. Any attitude is fine as long as its motionless.

I'll let Mr. Payne elabrate more on specifics of the MiG in due time. Suffice to say, it is really impressive. We have flown several of them now and never cease to be amazed by how well it flies.....both quite fast and slow speed handeling.
+1,000,000

I was at an LHS this past weekend and had my eyes on Dumas laser cut balsa P-38 kit, and thinking how I could get the Beast 3D innards to work with it (with two external escs driving two bl motors). This new nbl will make it a step easier.

Any indication of an upcoming receiver with as3x for park size and bigger models (perhaps even nitro/gas)???
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 12:17 PM
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Hi Guys,

Here are a few notes on the AS3X system.

1. This new NBL board will be sold as a Spektrum open stock receiver. There will be downloadable set-ups for various models/types and enough flexability to adjust it to specific servo/linkage settings so the sensors work in the proper direction. i.e. for the scratch builder and guy that wants to experiment with it in different models.

2. The system will not have the ability to switch it off. But the question really is why would you want to? There is no circumstance where its desirable. The model flies (significantly) better with AS3X in all situations.

3. When AS3X is initialized, the model only has to be held motionless for about 5 seconds. However the attitude is not important. Any attitude is fine as long as its motionless.

I'll let Mr. Payne elabrate more on specifics of the MiG in due time. Suffice to say, it is really impressive. We have flown several of them now and never cease to be amazed by how well it flies.....both quite fast and slow speed handeling.

Awesome info Mike! That's a dream come true! If I have a suggestion, make sure that some of those receivers hit the LHS shelves very quickly, and in large number!
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 12:18 PM
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Hi Guys,

Here are a few notes on the AS3X system.

1. This new NBL board will be sold as a Spektrum open stock receiver. There will be downloadable set-ups for various models/types and enough flexability to adjust it to specific servo/linkage settings so the sensors work in the proper direction. i.e. for the scratch builder and guy that wants to experiment with it in different models.

2. The system will not have the ability to switch it off. But the question really is why would you want to? There is no circumstance where its desirable. The model flies (significantly) better with AS3X in all situations.

3. When AS3X is initialized, the model only has to be held motionless for about 5 seconds. However the attitude is not important. Any attitude is fine as long as its motionless.

I'll let Mr. Payne elabrate more on specifics of the MiG in due time. Suffice to say, it is really impressive. We have flown several of them now and never cease to be amazed by how well it flies.....both quite fast and slow speed handeling.
Mike - thanks for the information. Very helpful.

For those of you that haven't had an opportunity to experience the new AS3X gyro I think you will not be disappointed. In fact... I think you'll find that it makes flying even more fun!!

The ONLY time I've ever felt that the gyro got in my way is in very slow, very high alpha KE manuevers. Sometimes it felt as if I were fighting the elevator. BUT... I realize that flying HA anything reduces sensitivity of the control surfaces and without the gyro, HA knife edge (with the Beast) is a much more difficult task. So in general - it really does improve the flying experience.

And just like any plane... you have to learn the tendencies of the plane you're flying. Since I've flown both the V1 Beast (without a gyro) and the 3D Beast (with the gyro) then I could tell a difference. Had I never flown the V1 I probably wouldn't even noticed the issue I pointed out above.

All in all - I'm thrilled with the AS3X system in the Beast and I'm looking forward to trying it out in this plane as well. Clearly this is a game changer and I can't wait to see what they have in store next!
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 12:25 PM
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 12:27 PM
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Wow, this is great news! I've been waiting for you guys to come out with a UMX EDF for so long now, I was starting to think some inherent limitations were going to render such a model impossible. Thank you, I will be getting one for sure. Hopefully, this is just the beginning of the micro EDF line...imagine the possibilities! A4 Skyhawk Blue Angel anyone?
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