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Old Jan 16, 2012, 11:56 AM
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After a four years pause of Indoor competitions in Belgium, an FAI F6B competition was announced on short notice - basically to find potential pilots for the World Artistic Games which are supposed to take place in China at the end of this year.

There was a lot of time available, as only 13 of 15 pilots showed up. Normally, the event would have been cancelled at this low number of participants.

Instead of running a practise round for the judges to familiarize themselves with the wide range of various performances, there was only one calibration flight.

The starting order was already pre-determined and unfortunately all consequent rounds where based on the scores achieved. The lowest scoring pilot starts first etc. With this system, there are only very little or slow movements in the ranking, unless there is a technical problem or a crash (very unlikely at this level of competiton and a hall of this size without obstacles).

Therefore I will leave it up to the viewer to do his (or her) own judgement of the flights.

Last flights of the finalists:

F6B AeroMusicals 2012 - Derk van der Vecht (2 min 18 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 - Nicolas Detry (2 min 9 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 - Julien Hecht (2 min 11 sec)


Scores as given by the panel of 5 judges (3 BEL, 1 FRA, 1 NED) in Round #1:

F6B AeroMusicals 2012 Mons/BE - Jakub Necesanek (2 min 20 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 Mons/BE - Julien Rinke (2 min 18 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 Mons/BE - Chris Currie (2 min 18 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 Mons/BE - Bert van der Vecht (2 min 4 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 Mons/BE - Werner Peters (2 min 13 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 Mons/BE - Marc Faulhaber (2 min 9 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 Mons/BE - Markus Zolitsch (2 min 7 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 Mons/BE - Marek Plichta (2 min 5 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 Mons/BE - Christoph Lausberg (2 min 3 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 Mins/BE - Julien Hecht (2 min 16 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 Mons/BE - Nando te Riele (2 min 12 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 Mons/BE - Nicolas Detry (2 min 7 sec)


F6B AeroMusicals 2012 Mons/BE - Derk van der Vecht (2 min 15 sec)


More videos to follow - watch this space!

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Old Jan 16, 2012, 05:53 PM
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Judges from three different countries in Mons !

I have to correct the comment from Jürgen. We had judges from three different countries : NED, FRA and BEL.
And the flying order is determined by the rulebook, which we followed as competely as possible.
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 11:28 PM
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I have to correct the comment from Jürgen. We had judges from three different countries : NED, FRA and BEL.
And the flying order is determined by the rulebook, which we followed as competely as possible.
Robert Herzog
Hello Robert,

I got the information about the nationality of the other judges from Henny van Loon (NED judge). If he did not know the nationality of the other judges, how can the competitors know? They never even got to see any of their score sheets.

This is no complaint against the organizer. You tried your best. It is only constructive criticism shared by many pilots. For judges with fairly little experience in this class, without having seen all the performances first, judging can be, let's say "a bit erratic", in the first round. Yet the first round is crucial with such a system. Judges are only human and usually are a bit hesitant giving very high scores at the beginning of a competition. For the qualification to the competition, it would be more fair to have two random rounds first, using the best score out of the two flights before using any "worst to best" system.

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And the flying order is determined by the rulebook, which we followed as competely as possible.
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Hello Robert,

as you are referring to the "rulebook", i.e. the FAI Sporting Code, Section 4 - Aeromodelling, Volume F6:

6.2.7.1. The competition shall be planned so as to limit the total duration. A competition duration from one hour up to no more than two hours is recommended.

6.2.7.2. The competition consists of one or several rounds leading to a final round. The starting order for the initial round is established by the Organizer according to any suitable accepted criterion. It is suggested that the starting order takes into account the competitors' skill ranking (established by any generally accepted mean) so as to increase the spectators' interest from the beginning to the end of the round.


These rules apply only for the competition itself and are not mandatory for the qualification to determine the competitors "skill level". Everybody flying in competitions is aware, that the starting order is important. Usually there is a lottery to determine the starting order for the first round and the starting order in the following rounds will change for maximum fairness.

In Mons there were 55 flights just to determine the best 12 out of 13 pilots, while the actual competition consisted of just 23 flights (including the re-flights for 3rd position).

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I see in several of the videos a plane that looks like Martin Mullers extra 300

Is this plane for sale somewere ?
Thanks Jurgen . Excellent work on your videos
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I made some searches and found the model here http://www.rplanes.nl/?page_id=3&category=31
But it shows unavailable for the moment .
I emailed Donuts and asked them to let me know when its back in stock .
For now though , is it available anywhere else ?
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