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Old Feb 13, 2012, 05:19 PM
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Bob - please keep us updated.

T-spin - I thought I read somewhere that the F86 was faster? Didn't someone say that the Sabre will go 40+ MPH?

I can't be certain but I thought someone in the mig thread quoted speeds of less than 40 MPH

Then again; not sure.

Can't really see why the mig would be faster though ?
I was able to use my flame-less micro torch and melt holes in the foam box all the way down to the cardboard and now it will sit in the box with the wheels on..

Now why in the world would I have to do this.. It never occurred to them that some of us would be flying with the wheels on all the time and don't wish to risk damaging the plane taking them on and off just so we can store it in the box??

It only has a three bladed fan so I can see where it might be slower than the Mig..
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 05:50 PM
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After all Liviona Bob's bitching and screaming I am glad he received his model first so we don't have to continue to hear his negativity. I'll continue to be positive and patiently wait for my order to be processed like all the other adults around here!
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 06:01 PM
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Razors,

I was watching them fly side by side...Like I said I don't know if the F-86 was wide open ? But I would think the Co reps would showoff all they had...Lots of room.

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Old Feb 13, 2012, 06:21 PM
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damn - I was hoping the Sabre would be faster - oh well; one can always mod it
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 06:24 PM
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Fly in there some time at 40 + mph and you will know why flat out all the time isn't always the way to go. The only "rep" I saw flying was flat out Frank Noll. The rest were team Futaba guys who had never seen the planes prior to Sat morning. I gave mine away as I have had the chance to fly there before and will again in the future. BTW, numbers of blades has nothing to do with speed or we would wind up with a solid plastic disk:-)
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 06:30 PM
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Fly in there some time at 40 + mph and you will know why flat out all the time isn't always the way to go. The only "rep" I saw flying was flat out Frank Noll. The rest were team Futaba guys who had never seen the planes prior to Sat morning. I gave mine away as I have had the chance to fly there before and will again in the future. BTW, numbers of blades has nothing to do with speed or we would wind up with a solid plastic disk:-)
Good news on the blade thanks...,, Now how about you make some holes in the foam in the box for the wheels to fit into. Change the printing on the box so that it's right side up when the model in the box is when looking at the handle end as it's confusing. Or where these boxes just the first ones rushed out the door so I could get mine...
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 06:31 PM
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See I knew it wasn't slow

P to the D, double dawg - dont be too hard on Livonia,
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 06:39 PM
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Now why in the world would I have to do this.. It never occurred to them that some of us would be flying with the wheels on all the time and don't wish to risk damaging the plane taking them on and off just so we can store it in the box??


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After all Liviona Bob's bitching and screaming I am glad he received his model first so we don't have to continue to hear his negativity.
Uhh..... WHAT?

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Good news on the blade thanks...,, Now how about you make some holes in the foam in the box for the wheels to fit into. Change the printing on the box so that it's right side up when the model in the box is when looking at the handle end as it's confusing. Or where these boxes just the first ones rushed out the door so I could get mine...
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 06:46 PM
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damn, so much for Karma...
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 06:46 PM
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I've dopplered both and the Sabre is faster.

Looking at the Sabre's rotor, I think they have a good balance of both static and eflux with low blade count but a good sized paddle of a blade.

The fun begins when we start hopping them both up and see who can rip the wings off which one first! LOL
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 07:02 PM
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I have not flown either the mig or the f-86. I did get to see them fly at E-Fest and what impressed this non-jet pilot was not the all out speed, they can both go fast, but the speed envelope of the jets. Both of them could be slowed to a speed where a biplane pilot like myself could fly them. The most impressive demonstration I saw was the 5 ship formation flight around the building by the mig pilots. It looked very realistic. All that was missing was the heat plume off the exhaust. The same thing could have been done with the F-86 though.

I dont know which is faster. Red objects always appear to be going faster than they actually are . From what I saw they looked too close in speed to call. Both of the models looked like they would be fun to fly. I can understand the frustration of having to wait for delivery of either one. I think I read somewhere, perhaps on this forum, that both hobbico and horizon service their vendors before orders from the web site. I think my new strategy will be to order through my LHS (luck to still have one) if I want something from either supplier as fast as possible.

It is amazing that these two products came out nearly simultaneously. And the classic mig vs sabre match up too. It almost like horizon and hobbico planned it that way. It is a good thing both companies have liberal return policies. If you bought a sabre and decided you want a mig I bet you could return your sabre for a full refund. Of you might be able to sell it to one of the other folks on the thread still waiting for theirs.

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Old Feb 13, 2012, 07:10 PM
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What Great Planes should do is not post the expected delivery date anymore. Give a general delivery date, and they get here when they get here. It makes me sick to read what some of the so called modelers have written in this thread. You would think some of the people posting here, are at the most 10 years old. Just another example of whats happening to our society as a whole these days. Gimme Gimme Gimme, mine mine mine, me me me. I have also noticed that HH has quit posting the arrival date by each of their models on their site. Smart move on their part. Shame that we have to be treated like a bunch of children, because of the immaturity of some.
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 07:17 PM
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After all Liviona Bob's bitching and screaming I am glad he received his model first so we don't have to continue to hear his negativity. I'll continue to be positive and patiently wait for my order to be processed like all the other adults around here!
Seriously---Sounds an awfull lot like you're looking down your nose at him...I'm glad you're positive and "patiently" waiting for your plane...I, as well as others, expect people to do what they say they are going to do and DO IT!!!...You and others have been sucked into the trap of empty promises and missed deadlines...

I will buy the Sabre when it finally arrives but I don't appreciate GP hyping this plane up to have only a handfull show up...What do we have???---Three confirmed delivered planes in this thread???...When you finally become a doctor certified in your field I hope that you don't treat your patients with such disrespect...

You are a BRILLIANT person with a great future ahead of you...Your modeling skills alone are heads and shoulders above most of the rest...Please don't ruin it by looking down on someone else...

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Old Feb 13, 2012, 07:37 PM
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 07:44 PM
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You know, Bob might end up becoming the best ambassador for the model for all we know! Now that would be good Karma.

He's already made a recommendation on providing wheel space in the foam of the box so we don't have to remove the LG each time we pack it away.

Post piccies of the foam mod if you have them Bob. I'm sure every one of us will be doing the same mod!
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