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Old Oct 31, 2012, 11:14 PM
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Old Nov 01, 2012, 02:00 AM
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HK Sbach or Dynam SBach?!
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Old Nov 01, 2012, 11:51 AM
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HK Sbach or Dynam SBach?!
Are you trying to make a decision or talking about the prop adapter from the previous post?
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Old Nov 01, 2012, 12:23 PM
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Trying to make a decision :-)
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Old Nov 01, 2012, 12:29 PM
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Trying to make a decision :-)
If you're making a decision as to which one, they're kind of two different planes. The Dynam is smaller and lighter but it doesn't look like it flies any better and it costs the same as the larger HK Sbach. Right in their video on the Nitroplanes.com web site it mentions you need upgrades to the servos if you're gonna fly it aggressively whereas many owners of the HK Sbach have flown it successfully stock out of the box as a hardcore aerobatic machine. However even the HK Sbach, if you want the servos to last, it's recommended to upgrade to MG servos.

Oranges to oranges comparison would be comparing the Aerosky Sbach Nitroplanes sells with the HK version, which I'm about to do as I've ordered the Aerosky Sbach, just waiting for it to arrive.

I've retired my HK Sbach due to too many crashes caused by either my poor piloting or faulty electronics. (My bad solder joints). I loved the HK Sbach, flew great. So I'll see what the Aerosky Sbach is like. It's the same size but a little lighter and a touch shorter, (probably more snappy). And I really like the spare parts list available for the Aerosky Sbach, could come in handy!

That's my plan anyway.

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Old Nov 01, 2012, 05:34 PM
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Trying to make a decision :-)
I have them both and agree with teknokraze says, kinda apples to oranges. Howeve below is some information from someone who has both.

Note Dynam has upgrade the servos from the first batch. The newer Dynam Sbachs come with larger servos for rudder and elevator. However I did still change mine out for some faster MG ones, as well as on my HK Sbach as well from a stripped rudder from a crash.

Looks - The HK one looks better from the ground and in the sky, the Dynam has a dull finish. Point HK.

Ease of flying - Always a personal choice, but I feel the HK one wins, due to being heavier it cuts through wind a bit better, plus mine pulls 1107watts so powering out of things is easier for a beginner.

3d - The Dynam one is way easier to throw around, if your a intermediate flier, you'll hover, knife edge loop, poptop the Dynam all day long, it's pretty light and does what you tell it to, where the heavier HK one I can hover decently, but really need to keep on the sticks. The HK one is no hardcore 3d plane, pulls more watts and is faster, but at stock 2300g (auw on mine is 2276.2g) compared to my Dynams stock 1450g (auw on mine is 1489.5g) the Dynam just feels nimble compared to the HK. Point Dynam.

Crashability - Well Dynam is the clear winner on this one ... Even though fixing EPO is pretty easy, the HK one has no parts support (cept the motor shaft). Point Dynam

Price - The Dynam one is almost always on sale for $125 where the HK one is $150, both are close. People might argue you need to change out the tail servos for the Dynam, but I argue you also should for the HK. Point Dynam.

So it might look like I'm leaning towards the Dynam, but if both my Dynam and HK Sbach burned in a fire which would I replace if I could only buy one? My HK one ... hands down! It's just soo dayam pretty to not have in my fleet, just keep it out of the sun, that black paint bubbles.
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Old Nov 01, 2012, 05:45 PM
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Thanks man - I decided to go for the Dynam due to the following reasons:

1) I owned many Dynam planes and their foam is extremely good. I have very good experience with Durafly planes but don't know where the HK SBach is coming from.

2) Shipping - HK charged me $40 for shipping where NP got me at $14

3) Replacement Parts - I am going to FPV this thing and needed some replacement parts such as cockpit, etc right away - everything was available.

4) Size: I can fit a 1400mm plane in my car, but it will touch both doors, so a 1250mm will fit just right - although I could remove the wings from the HK Sbach.

5) Price: I got the plane + 4x LiPo's for $50 less than the HK Sbach with 3 LiPo's because NP had the 2200mAh 40C on sale for $24 each.

However if this project is successful, I will definitely go for the HK Sbach next.

Thanks everyone! Looking forward to my first 3D Plane :-)
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GF got me one of these for my bday and am stoked to fly it. Bought 2 4s Turnigy nano-tech 4s 3300mah 35c batteries to fly with. I have a DX8 and plan to use expo and DR to calm this baby down. This will be my first true aerobatic plane.

Any recommendations on the throws? Modifications?
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Old Nov 03, 2012, 03:35 PM
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Guys sorry to ask these questions as i know the answers are somewhere in the past 84 pages of this post.

What is the stock motor (a link would be nice along with various props tested)? How many amps can it max draw? I see the Stock ESC is 75amp so the motor prob draws max ~60amps? What prop are folks using with the stock setup?

Again i apologize. Trying to play catch up so i can prep and get additional parts ordered while the plane is shipping (we all know how long it may take for the plane to get her from hobbyking.......)
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Old Nov 03, 2012, 05:01 PM
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No problem Ryan. Stock motor is a bit of an unknown. Simply supplied by the chinese manufacturer, nothing on the motor indicates make or model. I believe it's an 800KV and that's about all we know. 13x8 prop comes standard but many people feel a 14x7 is a better fit. I wouldn't push amps much higher than these 2 props generate.
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Old Nov 03, 2012, 08:51 PM
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Yeah it's crazy. i even started chatting with HK's product specialist via their chat room and they could not tell me where to buy a replacement motor.

With that said, what are folks putting in this plane?
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Old Nov 03, 2012, 09:04 PM
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also hobbyking gave me a buddycode for this so if you're looking to buy one buy with this code. Save yourself and save me some cash or put that cash to faster shipping

http://rcsearch.info/hobbyking/i23585/#catalog
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Old Nov 03, 2012, 10:25 PM
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Curious...Is that site done with the Hobbyking api?
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Old Nov 03, 2012, 11:41 PM
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Yeah it's crazy. i even started chatting with HK's product specialist via their chat room and they could not tell me where to buy a replacement motor.

With that said, what are folks putting in this plane?
I have run a 500 kv fms motor as its the same mounting holes and size motor and ran her on 6s but I also put in the eflite power 46 and its sweet on 4s pulls really hard
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Old Nov 04, 2012, 05:51 AM
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iceaxe: What is the max amps the FMS motor can pull?


teknokraze: When you buy a product from Hobbyking you will see some blue people next to your purchase. If you click on those blue people it'll give you a link. I guess this is similiar to how things like livingsocial work. That is if you buy a product from livingsocial then help advertise the product and have your friends buy from your link, it saves everyone money. Here's a link from within RCGroups that helps explain:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1439534

It's pretty cool espically if you know people are going to buy a particular plane, if we organize, it saves everyone money. more money for more planes
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