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Old Apr 06, 2012, 01:19 AM
RC Reviews & Tx Setup Guides
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I meant at full stick travel lowering the gyro gain will speed up the tail. I didn't mean dual rates and expos. I have 0 expo and 125% on my rudder but lowering the gain definitely sped it up. Turn your gyro down to 51 and see what happens, lol.
I tried to fly it the gyros turned off. Very hard to do! Had to turn them back on.

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Old Apr 06, 2012, 01:34 AM
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mescalinedream said "he felt that rudder imput was very slow with tomz settings".

This depends which setup guide you use. Some have normal rudder settings and others have fast rudder settings.
I am trying to cover all the settings that everyone can use to start with for Beginners, Intermediate, Advanced, and 3D settings.

Under my custom Mini CP settings I listed these for rudder.

Aggressive 3D settings:

RUDD D/R - 125%, EXP -70 %

I would start at EXP -10 % and work your way up to the EXP -70 % until you get the response you want.

Tom

Thanks again Tom, did not try any 3d today it was gusty here. Gonna wait for a calm day and take my chances then. I decided on 125% DR, -30% EXP for the rudder.
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 04:24 AM
Mini CP - Nano CPX - Devo 6
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9. Turnigy 1015 inrunner 11500kv. 5.1g .51ohms. Right speed and right weight, but may not be powerful enough. 10mmx15mm (about same size as stock). This may be the best brushless motor if you are looking for bettery battery life, and don't care for explosive power of the C05.

10. Turnigy 1220 inrunner 10300kv. 8.4g .342 ohms. Right speed, but slightly heavy.

11. Turnigy 1230 inrunner 4500 kv. 14.5g. .473 ohms. - Too slow and too heavy.
I just wanted to add to the comments on Turnigy 1015 inrunner. I got mine a few days ago and tried it out with the Walkera-10A-LT ESC and Turnigy Nano-tech 300mAH mCPX batteries and I've come up with the following:

Pros:
- Decent amount of power (first minute)
- MUCH quieter than the stock Genius motor I was using before
- Same size as the Genius motor = No need to cut canopy
- Uses same screws as Genius/Mini CP motor.
- Heli seems more stable, possibly due to reduction in vibration exibited by Genius motor.


Cons:
- Not a direct fit into the frame, requires very minor cutting in the frame
- Gets very hot within the first minute of flight. (I will try with another ESC later)
- I'm getting roughly 2 1/2 minutes flight time with the Turnigy Nano 300mAH's
- Headspeed seems lower, however I don't have a way of measuring it exactly.



I have a C05M on the way so hopefully that yields better results.
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 05:08 AM
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same experience... the 1015 did provide sufficient power. i think similar to stock genius motor, but it runs hot as hell... hotter than the stock motor. when i tested it, the motor got extremely hot in less than 60 seconds of flying. something is not right as it should run a lot cooler. my guess (as i've said before) seems to be with incorrect ESC settings for the motor, or somehow the ESC is pushing it too much power (kind of unlikely) as the motor should draw what it needs.
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 06:54 AM
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It's too bAd that the walkera esc isnt programmable. You would think there would be more motor and esc options on the market. I had seen a esc the other day for the genius aNd it was labeled 7amps. I cannot remember where though. I have a guy sending me a c05 for a rewind. Hopefully it will yield more power and efficiency over the stock c05.


It's millertime , why don't you list your radio settings. I have a feeling something is amiss with your setup. You had said that your mini has a counter clockwise drift problem. You also have a different tail boom over stock, correct? What is your blades pitch at half stick. Hopefully you have throttle hold turned servo on so the blades pitch but don't spin. I think all the flying problems you are having is due to your setup. Also, where is the screw on the rx at? Some people keep it at 12:00.
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 08:31 AM
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Check out Bytemunchers blog - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=296568 He has compiled some information of mods that should be done. Make sure to use a fresh blade because otherwise the arms will slip much too easily. I would suggest using the o-ring, although even with it, if the slot is too big they will still slip easily.

Ben
I don't have any O rings, is there any other ways to protect the servos? I am a bit worried that if I cut the servo arms and they start slipping i wont have any spare arms.
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 10:01 AM
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I don't have any O rings, is there any other ways to protect the servos? I am a bit worried that if I cut the servo arms and they start slipping i wont have any spare arms.
Some have used dental floss, others have used heat shrink tubing. Just order some feathering shafts which come with 2 and you should be okay for a couple days as long as you use a new blade for cutting.

Ben
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 11:11 AM
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... Just order some feathering shafts which come with 2 and you should be okay for a couple days as long as you use a new blade for cutting.

Ben
Why only a couple days?
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 01:14 PM
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So I just got my Mini CP...it hovers at 3/4 stick and normal and idle up...how do I fix this? I have the devo 8S

EDIT: Also I already checked that it was 0* pitch at mid stick
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 01:37 PM
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Why only a couple days?
Well, depending on how much someone crashes it can stress the arms causing them to be looser on the servo.
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 05:23 PM
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3d flyer what is your throttle curve?
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 05:27 PM
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3d flyer what is your throttle curve?
I fixed it in norm mode. I just turn the pitch and throttle up a bit.

It still does it in idle up, though.

100% at full top/bottom, then 85% at mid stick.


Edit: Now I have another problem When I switch to idle up 2 (3rd position) it spins as if the tail motor blew out
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 06:24 PM
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I haven't put mine in Stunt Mode yet, but if mid stick is 0* Pitch, wouldn't about 3/4 stick be about right for hovering?

If not, maybe measure its MAX Pitch, to make certain it's OK?

May also want to measure RPM. If you don't have a Meter, Main Blade RPM can be measured with an Audio Tachometer/Spectrum Analyzer.
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 11:08 PM
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It's millertime , why don't you list your radio settings. I have a feeling something is amiss with your setup. You had said that your mini has a counter clockwise drift problem. You also have a different tail boom over stock, correct? What is your blades pitch at half stick. Hopefully you have throttle hold turned servo on so the blades pitch but don't spin. I think all the flying problems you are having is due to your setup. Also, where is the screw on the rx at? Some people keep it at 12:00.
Replaced the tail boom with a stock one to test. No difference. I thought most all Minis/ Geniuses had the CCW yaw drift? If I turn my rx adjustment pot clockwise I can make it drift CW so a little fine tuning there might cure it. I have 0 pitch for throttle hold but with both motors unplugged I have zero pitch in st. 1 and 2. I adjusted the rx pot both CW and CCW about 45 degrees and went from 82% gain all the way down to 50 and back up to 100. The tail wag will not go away.
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Old Apr 06, 2012, 11:25 PM
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Edit: Now I have another problem When I switch to idle up 2 (3rd position) it spins as if the tail motor blew out
I have the same problem using Tom Z's beginner settings I think ( not sure if it was intermediate ). I'm still a noob so stunt mode is still a long way away for me.

Anyways I have learnt so much by flying outdoors recently, the mini and genius cp both help me to try learn the basics and then I can apply those skills to my v400d02. Its been a depressing 6 weeks on crutches....very little flying because its hard to take your helis and batteries outside especially the v400 while on crutches. And on top of that I have to walk by my gsx r600 that I can't ride for another month even though the weather has been amazing in New York for the past two months!!

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