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Old Apr 13, 2012, 02:22 PM
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The v3.0 PC software appears to work fine with the standard ZYX, but I haven't tried everything. The v3.01 firmware does not work in the standard ZYX.

Even though v3 seems to work with the standard ZYX, I see no reason to change from using John's app. I prefer the extra features his app has.
Now that I have a ZYX-S I can do the analysis and add the new features to the FBL program. It looks pretty much the same unless you are not using the gyro on a heli.
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Old Apr 13, 2012, 09:38 PM
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Can,t wait I really like ur program. winds been about 20 mph here so I havent got to test katana with zyx s. The tail worked better when I set it up in heli mode and could put tail in heading hold mode
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Old Apr 13, 2012, 11:29 PM
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I was able to get it working and the ZYX to connect. I have it all setup now except I need shorter linkage arms then the Tarot ones supplied to stay at 90 on the servo arms. I am trying it on a Furion 450 and only changed out the head and not the shaft. I found I needed to delete all the drivers from the Flymentor software and then, as all had said, battery, Tx and Rx on. I had to start the software first then plug in the USB for it to recognize. I can't wait to try it out tomorrow.
Thanks again everyone.

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Old Apr 14, 2012, 12:42 AM
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Anyone know which gain adjustment might help an oscillation in the swash , it seems it is side to side but it may be front to back as well.

It is on my 550
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 12:56 AM
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Anyone know which gain adjustment might help an oscillation in the swash , it seems it is side to side but it may be front to back as well.

It is on my 550
I would start with the Pitch and Roll gains on the Gyro Total Gains menu, drop them by 5 points and see if that resolves it
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 01:10 AM
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The v3.0 PC software appears to work fine with the standard ZYX, but I haven't tried everything. The v3.01 firmware does not work in the standard ZYX.

Even though v3 seems to work with the standard ZYX, I see no reason to change from using John's app. I prefer the extra features his app has.
Thank you for clarifying.
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 01:17 AM
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at the risk of sounding sarcastic, that last problem sounds like telling a surgeon I have a broken bone but not certain if it's my arm or leg would you perform the operation please? I am 5'-10"
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 02:19 AM
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I tried the ZYX-S v3.01 in my early CX-3X1000, that is crossflashed to the ZYX. I decided to use the FBL app this time. The flash failed and just left the red light lit solid, so I decided to flash back to 2.5. I opened the 2.5 firmware and used the upgrade but at the end the red led was lit solid again.

I then decided to use the v3 Tarot app to flash the v2.5 firmware and the gyro was restored and worked fine. So I decided I would try flashing the v3.01 firmware again using the Tarot app, and again was left with the solid red led. Flashed back to v2.5 again and all was well.

I'm not sure why the FBL flash to v2.5 didn't work.

NOTE: I was able to crossflash my CX to a ZYX, because it was an early version (no silver edges on the blue part of the case). Others that have tried this have failed and the gyro is no longer usable.
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 03:30 AM
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Is it not possible to brick the gyro crossflashing all these different updates?
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 04:18 AM
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By the looks of it, as long as you have a valid update to restored to, no.
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 05:43 AM
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Ok, tnx....It's the same drill as flashing my Android......I actually wonder if any hardware can be bricked by a (faulty) firmware change.
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 07:06 AM
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The 3.1 firmware upgrade is needed so the ZYX-S(2.1) can use all the functions in new version of the 3.0 PC program. The english version is alittle different than the chinese version.
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 07:23 AM
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Ok, tnx....It's the same drill as flashing my Android......I actually wonder if any hardware can be bricked by a (faulty) firmware change.
Unfortunately yes - I (and a couple of others) have tried cross-flashing a Copterx 3X1000 with the Tarot ZYX firmware and bricked our 3X1000s. Unfortunately Copterx haven't released any firmware yet, so I can't reflash to original firmware. BF and some others have had success however which is even more confusing
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 10:17 AM
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HELP! - I think I may have bricked my C3X1000 as well.

I stupidly tried to crossflash it with the Tarot 2.5 firmware before I read about some of the problems. I used JohnNZ's v1.21 software and all seemed to go well. The upgrade completed sucessfully, but now it's just dead. Although the red led does flash if I power on with the set button pressed. I can't connect to John's s/w though.
How is it possible to re-flash back to the original if you can't connect up to a PC?

Any help much appreciated.

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Old Apr 14, 2012, 11:00 AM
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Update - It seems you are able to force a re-flash even though the software shows the FBL unit as not connected.
I was able to re-flash the 2.5 firmware again twice, but still no joy. No leds lit and all servos dead.
I'm sure if you could re-flash the original CopterX firmware all would work again.

Where can I get that from, I wonder?

There should have been an option to save the original firmware, I feel.
Too late for that now... argh!!
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