HobbyKing.com New Products Flash Sale
Reply
Thread Tools
Old Jan 05, 2012, 01:17 PM
Registered User
Beetle-Jet's Avatar
Joined May 2010
328 Posts
Discussion
FW5 Vs. Helios DLG Launching Sound

Hi Guys,

I was a little bit board .....
This is a promo for a full Comparison between two nice Dlg's

At first i made a Vid of Launching Sound

FW5 Vs. Helios DLG Launching Sound (0 min 39 sec)


Gil
Beetle-Jet is offline Find More Posts by Beetle-Jet
Last edited by Beetle-Jet; Jan 05, 2012 at 02:03 PM.
Reply With Quote
Sign up now
to remove ads between posts
Old Jan 05, 2012, 02:17 PM
Registered User
Tmark65's Avatar
Greece, Central Macedonia, Thessalonika
Joined Mar 2006
144 Posts
Great video !!!

I prefer the way FW5 sounds !!!
Tmark65 is offline Find More Posts by Tmark65
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 05, 2012, 02:41 PM
Registered User
Joined Jul 2007
180 Posts
The FW5 has a hollow wing and the Helios has a wing with a full Rohacell core. This difference certainly has influence on the sound.

Bas
Bas B is offline Find More Posts by Bas B
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 06, 2012, 03:07 AM
Team Hong Kong F3K
ThomasLee's Avatar
Hong Kong
Joined Sep 2010
3,256 Posts
sweet launch, the fw5 sounds wicked
ThomasLee is online now Find More Posts by ThomasLee
RCG Plus Member
Latest blog entry: Neos Layups
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 06, 2012, 03:19 AM
Alex Hoekstra's Avatar
Hurdegaryp Netherlands
Joined Feb 2007
395 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bas B View Post
The FW5 has a hollow wing and the Helios has a wing with a full Rohacell core. This difference certainly has influence on the sound.

Bas
Do you remember the sound of the T3 or mostly the lack of it. Hollowmolded wing.

@Gil, Did you cover the gabs from the Fw5? It sound dragy.
Alex Hoekstra is offline Find More Posts by Alex Hoekstra
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 06, 2012, 09:17 AM
Registered User
ydevriendt's Avatar
COSMOPOLITAN
Joined Oct 2005
522 Posts
I have two Flows and they're never noisy when launching. Actually no difference with my Stobel or Salpeter : zero noise, nice launch heights. Sounds like yours has a bad cold and wants to sneeze everytime you sling it.
Bless you !
ydevriendt is offline Find More Posts by ydevriendt
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 06, 2012, 10:03 AM
Father of Fr3aK, DLG Pilot
tom43004's Avatar
USA, OH, Worthington
Joined May 2002
6,774 Posts
I remember how my T2 sounded before I gap sealed it... and the crinkling sounds that I could then hear every time I launched it after the gap seal.

Bas B is right... when I watched the video the first thing I thought was the difference between a non-gap sealed hollow wing and a solid molded wing.
tom43004 is offline Find More Posts by tom43004
Last edited by tom43004; Jan 06, 2012 at 10:14 AM.
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 06, 2012, 10:09 AM
Registered User
Beetle-Jet's Avatar
Joined May 2010
328 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Hoekstra View Post
Do you remember the sound of the T3 or mostly the lack of it. Hollowmolded wing.

@Gil, Did you cover the gabs from the Fw5? It sound dragy.
Hi Alex,
Congrats on the T3

What do you mean gabs ? (Gaps ?) and where? dragy ? please explain

Quote:
Originally Posted by ydevriendt View Post
I have two Flows and they're never noisy when launching. Actually no difference with my Stobel or Salpeter : zero noise, nice launch heights. Sounds like yours has a bad cold and wants to sneeze everytime you sling it.
Bless you !
It is interesting why mine make that sound and yours isn't

I might think that mine is a bit afraid when he realize then soon he's going to meat some clouds and might get bad cold since you'r right, it is chilly up... there around the 200ft heights

But really , why mine make that noise and yours doesn't ?
I am using the Swindell stabs, is that might be the reason?

Gil
Beetle-Jet is offline Find More Posts by Beetle-Jet
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 06, 2012, 10:12 AM
Duane
Wazmo's Avatar
No. VA
Joined Nov 2004
1,473 Posts
Do both planes use the same type of aileron linkage? It sounds a lot like the noise an exposed bottom linkage makes, but that wouldn't explain it if they're both the same.
Wazmo is offline Find More Posts by Wazmo
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 06, 2012, 10:13 AM
Father of Fr3aK, DLG Pilot
tom43004's Avatar
USA, OH, Worthington
Joined May 2002
6,774 Posts
The sounds could be coming from the flapperons not being at the optimal setting. I know my blasters used to make a terrible racket if I had my launch mode switch in the wrong position.
tom43004 is offline Find More Posts by tom43004
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 06, 2012, 10:19 AM
Kyle Clayton
Wave Glider's Avatar
United States, VA, Dinwiddie
Joined Feb 2008
2,438 Posts
Well at least the Helios launching sounds the same as mine
Wave Glider is offline Find More Posts by Wave Glider
RCG Plus Member
Latest blog entry: Helios and XXLite DLG
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 06, 2012, 12:15 PM
In F3J size does matter!
roydor's Avatar
Israel
Joined Nov 2006
865 Posts
Having built Gil's model and having its sister ship as my own (along with another) I can say that it has gap seal in the wings and the noise is either amplified from the hollow wing (resonance) or caused by the hole at the bottom of the fuse (used to connect the pushrods to the ailerons and can be easily taped over). The model itself is very clean aerodynamically and launch altitude is on par with other models I've launched such as the Helios and Steigesen which goes to show that the model isn't "dragy" but rather conventional in that regard.
roydor is online now Find More Posts by roydor
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 06, 2012, 05:04 PM
Registered User
ydevriendt's Avatar
COSMOPOLITAN
Joined Oct 2005
522 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by roydor View Post
Having built Gil's model and having its sister ship as my own (along with another) I can say that it has gap seal in the wings and the noise is either amplified from the hollow wing (resonance) or caused by the hole at the bottom of the fuse (used to connect the pushrods to the ailerons and can be easily taped over). The model itself is very clean aerodynamically and launch altitude is on par with other models I've launched such as the Helios and Steigesen which goes to show that the model isn't "dragy" but rather conventional in that regard.
Of course . . . if you guys don't tape the hole in the fuselage bottom for connecting the pushrods ?

On a more general basis : every whistle or sound produced by a glider indicates drag. So tape all the gaps and holes up carefully, alternatively use earplugs for launching

Lots can be learned from gap sealing on "real" gliders : for instance this site http://www.gliderservice-novak.si/en...l-surface.html

Gap sealing not only eliminates aerodynamic noise, but improves performance and effectiveness on all control surfaces. And you can throw your earplugs in the trashcan or sell them on E-bay

Yves
ydevriendt is offline Find More Posts by ydevriendt
Last edited by ydevriendt; Jan 06, 2012 at 05:10 PM.
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 06, 2012, 05:05 PM
Alex Hoekstra's Avatar
Hurdegaryp Netherlands
Joined Feb 2007
395 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beetle-Jet View Post
Hi Alex,
Congrats on the T3

What do you mean gabs ? (Gaps ?) and where? dragy ? please explain

Gil
The space between the aileron and wing over the hingeline. Does it have some sort of tape to cover it or is it all open?
Alex Hoekstra is offline Find More Posts by Alex Hoekstra
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 07, 2012, 08:30 AM
Registered User
Beetle-Jet's Avatar
Joined May 2010
328 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Hoekstra View Post
The space between the aileron and wing over the hingeline. Does it have some sort of tape to cover it or is it all open?
Hi

Tested today with my DLG sister plane (roy's dlg ) and we go through all the hinge line tape, all in place and secured.
Also if not mentioned early, the hatch of the ailerons linkage is also covered with tape.

Roy FW5 dlg makes a soft Whistle noise similar to the Helios, but mine still make a loud Whistle,
I find mine much more interesting, like a nice echo of rifle shot ( like old western movies)

As long as it doesn't hurt my launch high i can live with it.

Gil
Beetle-Jet is offline Find More Posts by Beetle-Jet
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Category Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Discussion homebrew dlg, HELIOS src krikkens Hand Launch 1282 Nov 09, 2014 08:28 PM
For Sale Helios DLG kits Wave Glider Aircraft - Sailplanes (FS/W) 1 Mar 06, 2012 11:09 PM
Question DLG Contest Sound System bjue Hand Launch 20 Dec 12, 2011 01:45 PM
Discussion 10 year old DLG launching ifome Hand Launch 16 Dec 11, 2011 03:36 PM
Discussion Opinions wanted: Helios 25e vs Element 30? BTerry Sport Planes 19 Jan 22, 2009 12:59 AM