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Old Jan 04, 2012, 11:50 AM
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Ultra-Micro Trainer 100 RTF (UMT)

From Ares RC ( http://www.ares-rc.com/ultramicrotrainer100.html ) and available from HobbyTown USA.

Anybody else have/flying one?

Flew it at our dome fly last Thursday ( www.marcee.org ); sparked a lot of interest from Telemaster fans.
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Old Jan 04, 2012, 05:22 PM
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Nice looking plane.What's the price tag on it?
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Old Jan 04, 2012, 05:54 PM
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Finally a 4ch high wing design! This would be awesome with UM floats!
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Old Jan 04, 2012, 08:25 PM
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Nice looking plane.What's the price tag on it?
They appear to be $90 at Hobbytown.
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Old Jan 04, 2012, 08:52 PM
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I saw these at a local Hobbytown but didn't take the time to look at them....


Link doesn't seem to working???
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Old Jan 04, 2012, 11:38 PM
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Finally a 4ch high wing design! This would be awesome with UM floats!
The plane itself is three channels, only the transmitter is four channels. I assume they will have a four channel plane someday, however.

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Old Jan 04, 2012, 11:48 PM
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With Champs costing the same $90, or less, this is a $60-65 plane, max.
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Old Jan 05, 2012, 12:30 AM
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With Champs costing the same $90, or less, this is a $60-65 plane, max.
That's what I thought when I first saw this.
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Old Jan 05, 2012, 04:40 AM
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Hello everyone,

For anyone that might be interested in the Ultra-Micro Trainer (UMT) 100 RTF, here's some feedback we received recently (also posted on our Facebook page and linked on the 'News' page of our web site):

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Today I went out and flew the new Ares Ultra-Micro Trainer 100. I gave it 1/4 power and that was more than enough to make it fly. The power this plane has is very impressive! (editor’s note; more than 1:1 thrust to weight ratio on a fully charged battery!)

I started at 9:21 and there was a slight wind of about 3mph. The plane can do loops and I even flew it inverted with great control. I did have one accident and hit a post…it fell about 15 feet directly to the ground. The wing came off and I was shocked when I recovered it that there was not 1 scratch or indication I had crashed. It was back in the air immediately and I finally ran out of power at 9:43. That was a 20+ minute flight and it was great.

In my personal opinion I like it more than the Champ and think it handles the wind a lot better.
Here also are some features not found in other similar class models and unique to the UMT:

• Full-airfoil wing and horizontal tail design for smooth and stable flying even outdoors in light winds

• Removable wing with a unique magnetic attachment design (easy to remove/replace without time consuming work or the use of glue and tape!)

• 4-channel transmitter with 2.4GHz technology and convenient built-in LiPo battery charger (compatible with the Nano-Micro Stick 75 and future Ares aircraft releases)

• Powerful and efficient coreless motor equipped power system (more than 1:1 thrust to weight ratio and the gearbox/motor are easy to access by removing one screw....no time consuiming work to 'cut' the airplane apart to access the power system!)

• 150mAh 1S 3.7V LiPo battery with magnetic attachment delivers flight times of up to 20+ minutes per charge


Be sure to check out a full review of the UMT in the latest (February 2012) issue of Fly RC that hit mailboxes/store shelves in the last few weeks. You can also see video of the UMT in action, as well as unboxing, review videos and more of the all-new Ares Ultra-Micro MD 500D CX 100 heli on our Facebook page here:

http://www.facebook.com/AresRadioControl

And as noted above, the transmitter included with the UMT is compatible with the new Nano-Micro Stick 75 (http://ares-rc.com/nanomicrostick75.html) that will be available in a version without transmitter in the near future. Also, the transmitters included with both the RTF version UMT and Nano-Micro Stick 75 will be compatible with future Ares aircraft releases

Happy New Year!

Jason
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Old Jan 05, 2012, 08:37 AM
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20+ minutes flying time on a 150mah pack? The Vapor is in that range...but this thing? The Champ is probably good for 15 minutes on a 150...but I'd be surprised if Horizon would claim that.
Do they actually advertise this flight time?

It actually looks pretty cool though
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Old Jan 05, 2012, 09:35 AM
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Like the plane; not the TX – not likely compatible, so considering:
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Old Jan 05, 2012, 10:13 AM
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The Brick looks like the old Flyzone brick. I'm sure it's different, but its the same style.
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Old Jan 05, 2012, 02:46 PM
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Removable wing is nice!

The UMT is roughly the same size as Parkzone’s Micro J-3 Cub.

For me I need more rudder – can move in on the rudder horn.

And, less elevator (could be old/big hands w/little TX); tried but can’t move the control rod in on the servo.

Though the AR6400 is wider than the fuselage I think it can be installed by tipping it on its side; then I can use my 9503.

Will likely remove the magnets too; as, she seems a bit nose heavy to me – nice/safe for a “trainer”.

Hope to get it to do great 3 channel aeros via the above – can’t get a roll from my mCub.
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Old Jan 05, 2012, 05:15 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if it had the same servo mechanicals as the old Flyzone stuff, which reputedly had some issues. The airfoil is an unusual design for a micro model, but it does seem to fly very well.

Non-DSM2 is a deal-killer for me, but if you sell the parts cheap enough, I might get one as a kit. I can't seem to find them, though, which is a bit worrying for a trainer.
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Old Jan 06, 2012, 04:04 AM
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20+ minutes flying time on a 150mah pack? The Vapor is in that range...but this thing? The Champ is probably good for 15 minutes on a 150...but I'd be surprised if Horizon would claim that.
Do they actually advertise this flight time?

It actually looks pretty cool though
Hello MRGTX,

Yes, 20+ minute flight times are advertised with confidence See here:

http://ares-rc.com/ultramicrotrainer100.html

My typical flights include quite a few nearly vertical climbs out of sight and lots of 3-channel aerobatics (loops, stall turns, barrel rolls, spins...and some inverted flight too) and flight durations are right around 20 minutes. Here also is a related quote from an article Jon Barnes (frequent contributor/reviewer here on RCG) put together with coverage of our local electric fun fly and posted on www.HDFlyer.com:

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This little high wing, tail dragger model features a true air-foiled wing and a 150mAh single cell lipo. To say that this trainer can perform aerobatics is a gross understatement! Every time we looked over toward Jason, he had the little trainer in the air doing all sorts of maneuvers! It turned into a joke of sorts among us as the afternoon wore on …”Yep, it’s STILL in the air!”
I have no doubt that in 'cruise' mode flight durations could be upwards of 25+ minutes on the stock 150mAh battery.


Hello UNGN,

The control unit is similar but not exactly the same and includes a number of updates. Best of all they've proven to be robust and extremely reliable with no issues noted after shipping thousands of units so far (servos included!).


Hello UJ/jrb,

As with most of the 'micro' transmitters included with ultra-micro class models it will take some getting used to if you're used to flying with a 'full-size' transmitter. I really like the convenience of having the charger built into the transmitter though so that's what I use when flying the UMT (also nice because the stock transmitter fits back in the box for easy transport ).

Also, I usually move the pushrods in one hole from the 'stock' position on the control horns to increase rudder and elevator travel. The stock setup/travel works well for first-time/low-time pilots but more experienced pilots will definitely appreciate added travel for aerobatics in particular.

CG with the stock 150mAh battery may be a tad nose heavy for more experienced pilots but does work well for first-time/low-time pilots and outdoors in light wind conditions. Switching to a 110-125mAh battery brings the CG back and makes the elevator a bit more responsive which can be good for experienced pilots when flying in smaller indoor spaces (like a basketball gym). Wouldn't suggest trying any lower capacity batteries and/or removing the magnets from the nose though as the CG may be a bit too far back then.


Hello Cheesehead,

The full-airfoil wing (and horizontal tail) design is definitely unique for this class of ultra-micro model but does work extremely well. The UMT can fly almost as slow as most similar class models with ‘undercambered’ wing designs yet can also fly faster and penetrate wind a bit better.

Also, parts availability is extremely important to us and as a result all parts are in stock and readily available from HobbyTown stores and on www.HobbyTown.com. You can see the complete parts list here:

http://ares-rc.com/products/product.asp?id=6
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