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Old Apr 29, 2012, 06:50 AM
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Nice bit of flying was that you Jurgen ? There appears to be something stuck on the starboard wing camera perhaps ?

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Old Apr 29, 2012, 11:11 AM
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Nice bit of flying was that you Jurgen ? There appears to be something stuck on the starboard wing camera perhaps ?

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I was just doing the video. The models were piloted by the MPX display team in Dortmund. I don't think something was stuck on the wing, but rather the sticker coming loose.

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Old Apr 29, 2012, 11:13 AM
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EasyStar II Indoor ...

InterModellBau 2012 - EasyStar II Indoor (1 min 2 sec)


Pilot: Marc Faulhaber (12)

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Old Apr 29, 2012, 11:20 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3Gr-UChgYQ

Pilot: Marc Faulhaber (12)

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Two things strike me about that video:

1) I can't wait to be able to fly like that by the time I reach 12 years of age

2) There's no way on this Earth that a public event organiser would get insurance to put on a show like that in Australia unless the crowd were seated (with seatbelts) behind redundant layers of steel mesh and bulletproof perspex. I'm actually amazed by the way he was not only able but also allowed to fly so close to the audience.
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Old Apr 29, 2012, 12:00 PM
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2) There's no way on this Earth that a public event organiser would get insurance to put on a show like that in Australia unless the crowd were seated (with seatbelts) behind redundant layers of steel mesh and bulletproof perspex. I'm actually amazed by the way he was not only able but also allowed to fly so close to the audience.
If you look closely, you will see the green safety net for the spectators. Indoor pilots prefer solid walls, as it is much harder to estimate the distance to the net.

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Old Apr 29, 2012, 12:15 PM
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If you look closely, you will see the green safety net for the spectators. Indoor pilots prefer solid walls, as it is much harder to estimate the distance to the net.

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Ah, OK, I see it now. It's more visible on the camera's left, away from the majority of the audience, because the panning seems to slow down when the camera is facing that way.

It must take excellent depth perception to be able to keep the plane within those "fuzzy" confines of the net. Very impressive flying. Thanks for sharing the video.
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Old Apr 29, 2012, 12:35 PM
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Great flying in a small flying area. Well done. It flies just like my Skysurfer !
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Old Apr 29, 2012, 02:39 PM
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Blasphemy! Throw him out!
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Old Apr 29, 2012, 04:42 PM
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Now then.....

Just playing with a camera pan installation, controlled by the LH stick (ie what would be the rudder channel if I had ailerons...I'm on Mode 2). Strange thing is that when I operate the actual rudder (ie RH stick), the pan servo moves - just a couple of degrees, but a definite movement. Every time; and the movement sense is related to the rudder movement sense.

Anyone any ideas why and what to do to stop it?????
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Old Apr 29, 2012, 05:23 PM
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I'm guessing all the channel mixing is off?

I'd be tempted to see if the movement occurs when the rudder servo is disconnected from the RX, in case it's something in there. Would a ferrite chokey thing help?
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Old Apr 29, 2012, 06:48 PM
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Now then.....

Just playing with a camera pan installation, controlled by the LH stick (ie what would be the rudder channel if I had ailerons...I'm on Mode 2). Strange thing is that when I operate the actual rudder (ie RH stick), the pan servo moves - just a couple of degrees, but a definite movement. Every time; and the movement sense is related to the rudder movement sense.

Anyone any ideas why and what to do to stop it?????
Sounds like an AIL->RUD mix on the Tx. I can't recall if you mentioned what sort of Tx you're using, but if you can't seem to hunt down the unwanted mix I suggest specifying the make and model. Someone may be able to explain how and where to find all the potential mix settings within the Tx menu structure.
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Old Apr 29, 2012, 07:09 PM
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Awesome flight and good piloting- love to see aileron rolls with an EZ- still stuck on 3 channels in the US.....
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Old Apr 29, 2012, 07:16 PM
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I flew that other plane of mine into the clouds today- first time I have ever done that- and had a gopro mounted on it for the first time ! Eckace made it into the clouds also- ceiling was at about 1500ft- was too cool- we carried 6 cameras aloft on 2 flights- I got 12 clips to edit together!!!
I best get busy....
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 01:36 AM
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I'm guessing all the channel mixing is off?
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Sounds like an AIL->RUD mix on the Tx..
Good thinking! That does fit the evidence - I'll check it out later today, but I'm sure when I bought the (second hand) Tx that I reset everything to default before I began fiddling. In my defence for not thinking of that, it is the first Tx I've had with mixing....
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Old Apr 30, 2012, 08:47 AM
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Oh dear - Programmable mixing and wing mixing are both showing as 'inhibited'....

I'll try:
a) Braiding (plaiting) the wires to the rudder & elevator servos (as a father of a 10yr old girl, plaiting is second nature as I do her hair most nights)
b) If no luck, I'll try a toroid on the pan servo wire
c) Failing all else, I'll put some mixing in to counteract the unwanted movement

At the end of the day, if I can't run the problem down it isn't the end of the world because it only moves a few degrees, and so doesn't really affect the viewpoint.
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