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Old Jun 15, 2012, 02:26 PM
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Feel myself like an idiot......why should we test this crap?

Has anyone ever seen a video from the development team where they clearly show us how CF, PH and RTH work?????

Why should we test any firmware? They cant afford to buy parts and build a copter? I am sure they are aware of every problem with their controller! They know that CF don't work, RTH dont't work......etc Because they can't get their copter to do all the functions as well as we can not!

CMPANG!
If i am wrong, let us see some proof that team's tri, quad and hexa fly perfectly well !!!
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 03:09 PM
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Feel myself like an idiot......why should we test this crap?

Has anyone ever seen a video from the development team where they clearly show us how CF, PH and RTH work?????

Why should we test any firmware? They cant afford to buy parts and build a copter? I am sure they are aware of every problem with their controller! They know that CF don't work, RTH dont't work......etc Because they can't get their copter to do all the functions as well as we can not!

CMPANG!
If i am wrong, let us see some proof that team's tri, quad and hexa fly perfectly well !!!
That's a small problem and easily resolve. If the testing makes you feel like an idiot then don't do it, and if you think the Rabbit is crap sell it and move on.
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 03:14 PM
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you think the Rabbit is crap sell it.
this is exactly what i am going to do!

I have spent a lot more on repairs (props, bent frames, time and even finger cuts) than 2xrabbit cost
fed up with being a tester of pre-alfa-firmware )) want to fly. will get myself a second naza
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 03:15 PM
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this is exactly what i am going to do!
Ill take it if you dont want yours
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 03:19 PM
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Feel myself like an idiot......why should we test this crap?

Has anyone ever seen a video from the development team where they clearly show us how CF, PH and RTH work?????

Why should we test any firmware? They cant afford to buy parts and build a copter? I am sure they are aware of every problem with their controller! They know that CF don't work, RTH dont't work......etc Because they can't get their copter to do all the functions as well as we can not!

CMPANG!
If i am wrong, let us see some proof that team's tri, quad and hexa fly perfectly well !!!
Wow! If someone is holding a gun to your head please run and find the police. Lol. You dont have to test. It was said, "Try At Your Own Risk!!!". Some of us dont mind helping.

Now for the Rabbit Team not having there own Multicopters. Well I would think if they didn`t have them, then how could they program the software so far.

I hope you have a better day...
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 03:28 PM
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Feel myself like an idiot......why should we test this crap?

Has anyone ever seen a video from the development team where they clearly show us how CF, PH and RTH work?????

Why should we test any firmware? They cant afford to buy parts and build a copter? I am sure they are aware of every problem with their controller! They know that CF don't work, RTH dont't work......etc Because they can't get their copter to do all the functions as well as we can not!

CMPANG!
If i am wrong, let us see some proof that team's tri, quad and hexa fly perfectly well !!!
The reason is because if they take the time to get enough tests in it would be allot longer before we'd see updates. Why do you think big company's like Microsoft have public beta tester. A larger test over a shorter time means faster results
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 03:49 PM
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I tried to buy one of the upgrade boards. But the system said it was busy. Anyone had success with youbuy. Thanks Rkenosha
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 04:04 PM
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I just want to know:

1. If the problem is me, then show a video where we can all see that CF, PH and RTH work as they supposed to work!

or

2. If they sell crap and lie to their customers by announcing functions that doesn't work

A lot of people paid their hard earned money not only for a controller that can do stable hover but also for PH and RTH functions! And now they are asked to try, to place, to upgrade, to test etc

Do not compare Rabbit with Microsoft! Here are only 4 functions that need to be tested:
- compass calibration
- CF
- PH
- RTH

why and what do they need a lot of testers for? what they need is copter and they can test it themselves! It is as simple as that!

Hey! send me $100 and will sell you a flower with my promises that one day it will walk around and bring you coffee! Oh, it hasn't started to do that yet? No prob, upgrade it, move it closer to sun, shower it with coca-cola! It may help

One day or another you would ask yourself - am i idiot? why i have never seen a video of walking flowers? what had i paid for?
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 04:28 PM
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lfmc_fw_20120510_v1210_for_compass_test
1. Name: Dreddix
2. Is the bearing shown on GUI reversed before ? Yes (north was 180deg)
3. Is the bearing shown on GUI normal in the test fw ? Yes (north is 0deg)
4. Is the reverse orientation work for CF (y/n) ? Yes
5. Is the reverse orientation work for PH (y/n) ? NO, quad goes exactly in opposite direction
6. Is the reverse orientation work for GH (y/n) ? NO, quad goes in any other direction, but never in "home" direction.
7. List of any averse effect on other functions.. Once during compas calibration rabbit was stuck for good, no beeps, no leds, nothing. After replugging battery all settings were at zero, no calibrations stored, no any settings stored. Compass did not worked for one hour at all- did not get thru "testing phase", now works ok. Second time right after calibration rabbit did not reacted on any command from RC. FC beeps while "testing phase" when i move sticks and in breathing mode did not reacted at all on any command, no beeps, no nothing. Has to reset board in both cases to make FC work again.
8. Any other comments : Compass orientation is right now, and it has to be like now, but you have to reverse GPS logics too to make it work. With orientation like now no matter what angle FC is it shows always correct angle to north or any other direction, no accilations now, so orientation is correct! But GPS logics is as reversed compoass before. If TEAM can reverse gps logics, i`m sure RTH would work correctly and also PH would work even in strong wind.
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 04:52 PM
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I just want to know:

1. If the problem is me, then show a video where we can all see that CF, PH and RTH work as they supposed to work!

or

2. If they sell crap and lie to their customers by announcing functions that doesn't work

A lot of people paid their hard earned money not only for a controller that can do stable hover but also for PH and RTH functions! And now they are asked to try, to place, to upgrade, to test etc

Do not compare Rabbit with Microsoft! Here are only 4 functions that need to be tested:
- compass calibration
- CF
- PH
- RTH

why do they need a lot of testers? what they need is copter and they can test it themselves! It is as simple as that!

Hey! send me $100 and will sell you a flower with my promises that one day it will walk around and bring you coffee! Oh it hasn't started to do that yet? No prob, upgrade it, move it closer to sun, shower it with coca-cola! It may help

One day or another you would ask yourself - am i idiot? why i have never seen a video with walking flowers? what had i paid for?
We asked to be Beta Testers to help move things along. They said ok. They did not ask us first. A lot of great things are going on please read past post`s from all the forums.

I still hope you have a better day...
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 04:58 PM
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Just test it again, i mean 1.209 (because CF works once for me, after that need to power off and to start again) - the compas is awful. It show at North - 180, and tilt of the quad producing randomly degree readings in GUI. So no Care no Free for the our money at all

So, in test_1.210_compass there are positive tendention in good and clear compass calibration and strong constantly compass readings while tilting the controller. But CareFree need to be testing more. GPS functions does not working properly. It so pity for us, dear Rabbit Team!
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 05:02 PM
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if you think the Rabbit is crap sell it and move on.
Problem is that functions are not working as defined.

I've spent money for Rabbit GPS receiver, but due to the compass errors its not working. Lot of people tried to find the best calibration way, but the results looks like random generator - it works once, and not working after 5 minutes.

As for me, there are many flight controllers with the same features (Wii, Arducopter, Naza). I was planning to buy the second Rabbit, but don't want to do it until it's firmware will not work correctly.
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 05:09 PM
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Friends, do without emotion!

But according to the manufacturer functions (CF PH RH) do not work for most Rabbit FC buyers, the most frustrating silence and communication through third parties

Maybe so well in China? This frustrates most of all, disregard for the buyer. Potential buyers will visit the forum, read and buy a flight controller from another manufacturer

To sell, get the money and not care about the customer, I have noticed is not a good trait in Chinese (often communicate with them)
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 05:32 PM
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Know what? I am almost sure that there is no team behind Rabbit! There is probably one person (and everyone may guess who he is) who steal open source code from multiwii and ported it to 32bit board with better gyros and accel.

All functions (stability, sonar, flight, modes) that worked well on multiwii work well on a rabbit too! But when it comes to writing its own code for GPS-functions, he doesn't know what to do! Because multiwii community has not come with working GPS solution yet!

And he had to wait for them to publish their code! And while he is waiting he asks us to spend our time testing, trying etc ))
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 05:40 PM
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We asked to be Beta Testers to help move things along. They said ok. They did not ask us first.
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1. You asked to be a beta-tester because you are trapped! You paid money for the functions that do not work! And now you want to help them to make functions, you have already paid for, work as advertised!

And they (he) said you OK, allowing you to feel yourself involved! ))

2. They did not ask us first? Of course! You do not need them anymore! They have already got your money ))
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