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Old Feb 14, 2013, 03:10 PM
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The glue provided is quite good. If you don't like it, use UHU Por. A few pages back (471) Daemon gave a list of the "Must do mods".
or gorilla glue in north america. buy the white colour that's activated with water. i doubt you'll ever get breaks at the bond. its that strong.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 07:33 PM
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With all do respect, 8 months is what I'm trying to avoid. I understand that I need to read the thread but it's almost 500 pages long and it can be a little straining on the eyes.... especially if your job already requires you to sit in front of the computer for 8 hours a day
I think there are only 2 very essential modifications:

1) Put the servo push rods on top of the wing
2) Secure the hatch

If you stay under 3.5Kg and fly moderate (less then 80Km/H), that will be enough. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 10:01 PM
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I think there are only 2 very essential modifications:

1) Put the servo push rods on top of the wing
2) Secure the hatch

If you stay under 3.5Kg and fly moderate (less then 80Km/H), that will be enough. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks Pattaya,

I'll definitely be staying below 80km/h. Appreciate the help
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 10:15 PM
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I'll definitely be staying below 80km/h. Appreciate the help
You most likely won't. It'll do 80km/h at 20Amps flying level, and 110km in a power off,
low angle dive.
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Old Feb 14, 2013, 10:19 PM
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You most likely won't. It'll do 80km/h at 20Amps flying level, and 110km in a power off,
low angle dive.
what do you think of the HK rtf fat shark setup for a first fpv system if you don't mind? please and thanks.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 10:15 AM
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Both valid points but to be perfectly honest in MY case I need money for the..
Video tx
Video rx
FPV goggles
OSD and its components
Long range system
stabilization system
Motor
ESC
Tripod
Ground station and all of its components

The list for most of the essential fpv gear alone is very pricey for reliable equipment!
I have had other commitments and priorities before this hence the 8 month build
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 03:49 PM
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Whew, I did it! Read all the 7131 posts of this thread. I am a hero

First of all thanks to all you guys, I've learned a lot, gotten new ideas, dismissed others. My X8 is on the way to Germany

What really bothered me are the full-quotes, which is all bloat. Seeing a 2000 character quote follwed by a comment just saying "whats your setup?" is really pesky . It's a waste of bandwith, time and concentration.

But besides this the thread is a great resource.

And kudos to you, Ian. You over and over answered the same questions. And though your answers feel sometimes a bit chilly, you're a great source of knowledge and experience. For the next thread on my list, the skywalker thread , I've learned my lesson: this time, I will just filter 'Daemons' answers out of it. So I can get 70% of the essence of that thead with just reading 10% of it

It's not sweet talk, it's just so.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 06:37 PM
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Whew, I did it! Read all the 7131 posts of this thread. I am a hero

For the next thread on my list, the skywalker thread ,
Yes, you are a hero. I only managed about 1/2 before I gave up. What bothered me was many people giving their setup, which is very good, but then forget to mention the prop size, or the # of cells or the motor KV size which makes the whole information worthless. Stefan is trying to do his best with this list of setups, but still missing so much information that is so easy to give to him by the people who gave him the info in the first place. I saw his asking them many times....

For people like you and me, who are new to this plane (I haven't done my maiden flight yet, waiting for 2 servo's), it is hard to find basic info, unless you work your way through the whole treat.

I am sure by now, with so many people flying this thing for long time, it should be very easy to create a new treat (or 1 page on this treat) with the most essential information. Most of us "newbees" just need a starting point. This thing flies very well with a .....KV motor, .....Watts and ..x.. prop on .. cells. If you do this and this mod, you will be safe. From there, we can build up experience and become "experts" as well.

This treat has become soo massive, you have to be a hero to work your way through. By the way, what "Skywalker treat" are you talking about?
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 02:34 AM
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For people like you and me, who are new to this plane (I haven't done my maiden flight yet, waiting for 2 servo's), it is hard to find basic info, unless you work your way through the whole treat.
I must admit that reading the thread was my pastime until the X8 delivery.

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This treat has become soo massive, you have to be a hero to work your way through. By the way, what "Skywalker treat" are you talking about?
Haha, you do not know it? You'll find this thread here cute in comparison to 'The Skywalker Thread', which has in a way indeed developed from a thread into a threat ...

But lets talk X8. My idea for a setup is as follows:

- a Hacker A40 12L 14P V2 ist already lying on my desk together with a Hacker ESC 70A. I know this motor is more then necessary, but with 270 grams it is not too much for the X8 but technically allows for 3s, 4s, 5s and 6s setups in one wash. Technically means: with the right prop for each voltage-configuration you can achieve any characteristic from 'endurance' to 'power'. Whether a technically correct setup makes sense is a different story and has to be found out.

My idea is to try 4s with a 14x9 folding prop first which provides enough thrust and a moderate speed. This is exactly what I think is best for the beginning. You can play with this here.

PS: There is BTW a 'link generator' on the bottom of that page which I consider much better then screenshots.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 10:02 AM
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Is there a good level flight reference point in the cabin of the X8?

i.e. while in level flight, is the bottom floor of the interior or other area level. I'm trying to set a level flight attitude in my autopilot on the bench.

perhaps there's a better method.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 10:07 AM
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Is there a good level flight reference point in the cabin of the X8?

i.e. while in level flight, is the bottom floor of the interior or other area level. I'm trying to set a level flight attitude in my autopilot on the bench.

perhaps there's a better method.
Fly it manually first on a low fly-by? Each X8 wing comes with a natural upward warp on the trailing edge of the fuse wing root. Some are warped more than others and some people even clip that edge so it's in line with the main wing trailing edge. Depending on your warp or if you've pinned them, your flying attitude will be different anyway.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 01:32 PM
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Oso,
I set my level bubble off the cross beams that the CF tube runs through. When the X-8 is level north/south on that beam. I set the bubble on my AP. And yes, I use bubble levels that I keep in the model. A landing can slightly move the AP which would upset the level flight next time out. I found it important to secure the wires into the AP so they would not move the AP out of position.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 02:26 PM
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Fly it manually first on a low fly-by? Each X8 wing comes with a natural upward warp on the trailing edge of the fuse wing root. Some are warped more than others and some people even clip that edge so it's in line with the main wing trailing edge. Depending on your warp or if you've pinned them, your flying attitude will be different anyway.
Yeah, that's what I did yesterday. Thanks for feedback. I did get it flying for the first time.

Here's a video.

Initial Flight Tests (2 min 54 sec)


Yesterday's initial setup.

Turnigy g32 and 13x8 cf folder
2x4S in parallel, 12,000 total MAh
APM2, ardu 2.69
Lawmate 1.2 ghz at 1000mW
RFD 900 for telemetry
Dragonlink UHF RX/tx

Have a turnigy g46 and 14x8 prop to test next. Once I settle on the power arrangement plan on upgrading to a high end more/esc.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 02:40 PM
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Yeah, that's what I did yesterday. Thanks for feedback. I did get it flying for the first time.

Here's a video.

http://youtu.be/tLneOWxEk1I

Yesterday's initial setup.

Turnigy g32 and 13x8 cf folder
2x4S in parallel, 12,000 total MAh
APM2, ardu 2.69
Lawmate 1.2 ghz at 1000mW
RFD 900 for telemetry
Dragonlink UHF RX/tx

Have a turnigy g46 and 14x8 prop to test next. Once I settle on the power arrangement plan on upgrading to a high end more/esc.
Do you have pictures of your placement of all your equipment as I have the same equipment and thinking about getting an X8 for spring to install it in.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 05:06 PM
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it is possible that this has been addressed since I have not read all 476 pages here but to give a little extra durability to the x-8 I am covering it with this product

http://www.alofthobbies.com/new-stuf...ing-films.html

it comes in differnt thicknesses i'm putting 5mil on the bottom and 3mill on the top
as you see it one the roll the roll is 18 inches wide and you pay for it by the foot so if you buy one it would be 1 foot x 18 inches or 1ft x 1.5ft square
if you get 10 foot you would get a roll 10ft long by 1.5 foot across
I got way more than I needed as I got 45 foot of the 3m and 24 foot of the 5mil so i'm going to have tons of extra
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