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Old Dec 05, 2011, 09:31 AM
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F-8 Crusader

Congrats on the successful maiden!!! Glad to see it all worked out for you!!

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Old Dec 05, 2011, 11:21 AM
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Yup. Congrats and great job. The full floating elevator is a good mod for this plane. It takes out the tendency to pitch up, stall and flat spin. The F-8 conversion outline has got to look sweet in the air. makes me want to build a SLUF and make some appropriate changes in cluding the full floaters.
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Old Dec 05, 2011, 10:12 PM
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Thanks, gents...and thanks to bighead for the effort on the controls.

Just finished the new set up, full flying elev and small ailerons. CA wicking tubes, sold by the foot and thin music wire for ultra lightweight pushrods. Also, the flaps are adjustable and we're going set them at 30% on one of the next test flights to see if that will help smooth things out too.

The new system shaved 3 grams off the old...401 to 398, yea! Now some details are in order...pilot, ventral fins, paint, etc. One thing, I'll add the wing weapons pylon for extra fin area, detail with a purpose, win-win, as are the ventral fins. All this is only a few grams, but how cool would a wing incidence servo be...I figure about 7-10 grams...after this next round of tests, maybe...gotta see the red...

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Old Dec 05, 2011, 11:54 PM
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Amazing job on the mods! Counting the days until the weekend!
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Old Dec 08, 2011, 10:48 AM
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A pilot was found in the spares box and a jump seat was made from bits of foam and wire. A instrument panel was found on the net and printed out. Altogether it weighs less than 2 grams.



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Old Dec 11, 2011, 10:09 PM
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The new control setup works much better and we're getting closer to fly-ability. The elevator needs more tweaking and I may open a cheater on the bottom, more for just curiosity. I couldn't resist some markings from Callie Graphics to correct up some of the errors on the finish.

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The F-8 conversion outline has got to look sweet in the air. makes me want to build a SLUF and make some appropriate changes in cluding the full floaters.
Absolutely a rare sight in RC planes...F-8 Crusader. George Miller lives nearby and I've seen some of his incredible work...he offered a large glass/wood F-8 many years ago and his molds are owned by the same guy who bought Byron. I don't think there is any activity with any of these molds by the new owner...shame.

The F-8 from J-Power is not a bad A-7, especially after the fuse cuts. You'd have to get rid of the F-8 paint job and the 4 heavy servos, then something along the lines of our control system (two micro servos) installed. I bet it would be much more tame and lighter than factory specs. BTW, lighter fluid causes an instant release of the glue holding the servos, without messing up the paint.

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Old Jan 03, 2012, 05:20 PM
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Some progress...
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Old Feb 15, 2012, 07:11 AM
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Any updates?

I have one of these I'm working on and am anxious to hear how yours flies!
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Old Feb 15, 2012, 07:52 PM
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It's ready to go...weather or something else, you know how it is...four flights only still...hard to launch, not so tough once on step...

Are you extending yours too? Pics, if you don't mind...

Whiskey..Jacksonville...moonlight...some kind of familiar pattern I can't seem to put my finger on...

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Old Feb 15, 2012, 08:49 PM
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Some progress...
Wow that looks awsome! Great job on detailing a small plane.
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Old Feb 15, 2012, 09:58 PM
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Thanks FF!
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Old Feb 16, 2012, 12:16 PM
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Yeah, I don't blame you on being nervous about the maiden.

I'm still deciding wether to extend the front end. I haven't done much, so there's not much to show. I've put an initial layer of fiberglass and CA on the intake lip and done some paint stripping.

I plan to replace the stock power system with a WeMotec/Don's RC Wicked 6,000 Kv combo.
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Old Mar 11, 2012, 12:21 AM
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i bought one of these (2 actually one gave to buddie) at the last hobby show here in wa. i have read your thread and i am going to emulate what you have done. it looks like it will work well. im keeping mine as an a7. im going to measure the elevators incedense to see if its off. but plan to make them full flying like you did anyway. planning on getting dons wicked edf setup for this so it will fly well. thanks for all your tips. i have this page bookmarked for reference.
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Old Mar 11, 2012, 09:33 PM
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Hey drak...

By keeping it as an A7 will make the project a bit more fun...and it will fly a bit easier too. And putting Don's gear in, now you have a viable model. Taking out the kit servos and control layout and doing something along the two servo layout will help in weight control. Keeping the weight down is key to this model.

If you and Whiskey don't mind, I'd like to see some shots of your projects when available.

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