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Old Sep 11, 2012, 10:21 PM
Eugene
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Well Barl I will be getting one here in Australia and I have read and looked at all of the reviews ect and I am very impressed and IMO this would be the best transition heli from FP to CP Heli's.

I was thinking of getting either the X3V3 FBL Metal or the Belt 250 V4 Metal.
So while we have you here Max what ver would you recomend.
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 12:22 AM
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Well Barl I will be getting one here in Australia and I have read and looked at all of the reviews ect and I am very impressed and IMO this would be the best transition heli from FP to CP Heli's.

I was thinking of getting either the X3V3 FBL Metal or the Belt 250 V4 Metal.
So while we have you here Max what ver would you recomend.
I would get the X3V3 FBl Metal and best of luck to you. They are not bad flyers.
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 01:45 AM
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Well Barl I will be getting one here in Australia and I have read and looked at all of the reviews ect and I am very impressed and IMO this would be the best transition heli from FP to CP Heli's.

I was thinking of getting either the X3V3 FBL Metal or the Belt 250 V4 Metal.
So while we have you here Max what ver would you recomend.
I would strongly recommend the X3V FBL Metal Head version over the Belt 250 V4 Metal Head and Tail. It is a stellar performer. If you deal with a Chinese dealer in your area of the world, make sure they understand the Transmitter Mode you need (Mode 1 or Mode 2)

Regards

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Old Sep 12, 2012, 07:52 AM
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I cant remember the servos atm, but if the arm screws on You could try taking off the arm, turn on the heli and let the servo go to the middle position, turn it back off then mount the arm back in the middle.
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Swap servo plugs on the PCB to test the servo and PCB.
Thanks guys. Good tips. It is the right or aileron servo. Once the helo binds, the servo just runs but the servo axle doesn't turn at all. After swapping the left (elevator) servo to the other plug on the PCB, the servo worked just fine. Swapping the aileron servo to the elevator plug was the same effect, humming inside the servo but no turning of the axle. I need a new servo. I'm tired of waiting for that slow boat from China so will find a stateside supplier. I have yet to receive any of 6 orders from BG since the 1st order went in 33 days ago. I've had good luck with US eBay sellers.
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 08:48 AM
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I would strongly recommend the X3V FBL Metal Head version over the Belt 250 V4 Metal Head and Tail. It is a stellar performer. If you deal with a Chinese dealer in your area of the world, make sure they understand the Transmitter Mode you need (Mode 1 or Mode 2)

Regards

Max
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Thanks Max I have asked them about the Tx and they will send me the TX in mode 2 But I will be having a look around to find the best deal I can get from Australia or Aliexpress in China, bat as I said I would love to by it from you but the mailing cost is the killer for us in Austrailia.

Eugene.
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 12:13 PM
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I have to disagree. It is a good heli for the $145.00 or less you have to pay.
I have one and it is so easy to fly once set up properly.
The only problem is everyone wants it to be as durable and perform like a $400.00 heli. It won't. Many modify it to do so at considerable cost and that is their perogative. As you said, many component break when you crash, but with the proper learning curve, you can reduce that possibility. I think it is comparable to the Blade SR which may not be the best heli, but is suitable for the target market, the beginner to CP flying. The new Walkera Master CP is another entry level heli that is a good buy, but again, no perfect. The servos are not that great. But you get what you pay for.
My observations are based on the V400D02 thread, which is over 500 pages, of which 90% is about replacing motors, servos, motor mounts, tail mounts, and flexible frame issues. That thread seems to be devoted to improving reliability. The Walker Master CP appears to be a much better choice, for not a lot of money more.
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 09:04 AM
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My observations are based on the V400D02 thread, which is over 500 pages, of which 90% is about replacing motors, servos, motor mounts, tail mounts, and flexible frame issues. That thread seems to be devoted to improving reliability. The Walker Master CP appears to be a much better choice, for not a lot of money more.
I'll find out soon as I have one on the way.
Any yes, the 500 pages are trying about trying to make a basic flier into a performance 3D heli, which I must say, many have succeeded. At this point, I have had no problems after 25 flights with the 400, but it has never been crashed either.
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 09:46 AM
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Walkera seems to have finally learned that good plastic and fewer parts is a lot more durable and lighter than soft aluminum, as evidenced by the durability of their most recent micros. The Master CP appears to be the latest model to employ this more enlightened philosophy. The only potential red flag is it uses the same motor used in the V400D02.
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 11:49 AM
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Walkera seems to have finally learned that good plastic and fewer parts is a lot more durable and lighter than soft aluminum, as evidenced by the durability of their most recent micros. The Master CP appears to be the latest model to employ this more enlightened philosophy. The only potential red flag is it uses the same motor used in the V400D02.
But easier to change to brushless as it uses signal similar to the F45 so all that is needed is a motor and ESC.
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 12:57 PM
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I don't think anyone would mind if you post your impressions of the Master CP, with regard to being a next step up from the 9116.
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 05:28 PM
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Bal14,

As this tread is not just about 9116, I was wondering why did you cut your post.

Forums are to express our feelings and our attitude to sertain kinds of products.
You was saying some bad things about some productc. Then without any explanation you deleted your post. Maybe you should left it as is and add some comment, that product changed for good?

Please, I didnt mean to be rude, but I just don`t get it...
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 08:39 PM
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Bal14,

As this tread is not just about 9116, I was wondering why did you cut your post.

Forums are to express our feelings and our attitude to sertain kinds of products.
You was saying some bad things about some productc. Then without any explanation you deleted your post. Maybe you should left it as is and add some comment, that product changed for good?

Please, I didnt mean to be rude, but I just don`t get it...
I agree.
We many not always agree or have the same opinion, but we do all have the right to express that opinion. When we possibly say something we may wish to add on, make a comment. If I offend someone, although I did not mean to, I will say I'm sorry an carry on.
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 09:07 PM
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I would rather not discuss it. But, if anyone in the USA is considering a Wasp, I'd be happy to sell you mine for $40 with lots of spare parts.
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Old Sep 13, 2012, 09:54 PM
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oh man. I'd go for that...
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Old Sep 14, 2012, 07:54 AM
Eugene
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Hi everyone,
I have just brought a Skyartec Wasp X3V FBL with 2g 1.3mb Camera it should get here by Tuesday.
Here is a link to it Skyartec Wasp X3V
So I will let you know if it would be a good transisonal Heli before you go to a 450 sizeed heli.
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