We've exhanged one maniac for a bunch of worse ones. Just as with the 'palestinians', fundamentalist Islamics are not stupid, they know exactly how to play gullible westerners by telling them exactly what they want to hear. And those willing to deceive themselves in their haste to be rid of one dictator have merely resulted in getting western democracies and republics to bomb in support of Sharia.

Mustafa Abdul Jalil’s announcement last month that Islamic sharia would form the basic source of legislation in the new Libya, and that all laws contradicting the sharia were immediately null and void, came as a surprise for Western observers. Given that the chair of Libya’s National Transitional Council (NTC) wears the sign of his piety on his forehead in the form of the darkened “prayer bump” or zabibah created through vigorous prostration during prayer, it probably should not have.

Western observers had always been determined to see the anti-Qaddafi rebellion in Libya as a “democracy movement.” They were encouraged to do so by English-language NTC statements replete with soothing — if not indeed downright soporific — boilerplate that had undoubtedly been composed with the aid of Western advisers or PR agencies. But from the very start of the rebellion, clear evidence was available that the most fervent opponents of Qaddafi rejected his rule not as undemocratic, but, above all, as un-Islamic.

Libya (and most likely ALL of the 'arab spring') turns to fundamentalist Islam.

A brief and brutal spring turns into an endless winter and another bottomless pit.

Goat,

You have exchanged nothing for nothing - as it's not your country!

(Unless you are keeping a secret from the rest of us.. )

Originally Posted by Norman Adlam

Goat,

You have exchanged nothing for nothing - as it's not your country!

(Unless you are keeping a secret from the rest of us.. )

Then why were we involved in the first place? We should just leave them to their own devices, let them figure it out on their own.

Originally Posted by Norman Adlam

Goat,

You have exchanged nothing for nothing - as it's not your country!

(Unless you are keeping a secret from the rest of us.. )

Then you did!

Originally Posted by logan5

Then why were we involved in the first place? We should just leave them to their own devices, let them figure it out on their own.

We need to heed that advice......because we are damned if we do and more damned if we don't.

Yet another example of 'meddling'

Wonder what part British Petroleum played in all that?

Originally Posted by ENGINETORQUE

Yet another example of 'meddling'

Notice: Somewhat off-topic comment here.

One Libyan-born Jew (living in Italy, who tried to return to Libya after the 'revolution'), was the subject of enthusiastic anti-Jewish protests, and was convinced to leave Libya on an Italian military airplane.

Meddling Italians!

Looks like some Arab countries don't want any Jews living in their countries.
Libya currently has ZERO Jews living there.

It seems to me that over a couple thousand years, many countries have had such sentiments towards Jews.

I guess everyone as at one time or another, wanted Jews to just go back home, and then when the Jews do go back home, they all complain even more.

Originally Posted by LcJ

Wonder what part British Petroleum played in all that?

You mean that company 49% owned by the US, with an American CEO?

Originally Posted by LcJ

Then you did!

Sorry, Lyle my friend, but that comment just 'Whooshed' over my head..

Originally Posted by Norman Adlam

You mean that company 49% owned by the US, with an American CEO?

You mean that company 51% owned by non Americans?

Ahhhhh the War that was really nothing but about Oil and European Interest…yea almost forgot about that one.
Me thinks the Euros need to stop all them great socialist programs and start building some military Infrastructure or pay us to use ours..
Ahhhh I forgot learned lessons in South America with that tiny Island...

Originally Posted by aerogel

Ahhhhh the War that was really nothing but about Oil and European Interest…yea almost forgot about that one.
Me thinks the Euros need to stop all them great socialist programs and start building some military Infrastructure or pay us to use ours..
Ahhhh I forgot learned lessons in South America with that tiny Island...

Could do - but we keep getting side-tracked into helping you with all your squabbles...

Originally Posted by MtnGoat

You mean that company 51% owned by non Americans?

Hey, Goat... you could at least correct me properly..

UK = 40%
US = 39%

Ooopps!