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Old Dec 11, 2011, 08:33 PM
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I just don't understand the lack of enthusiasm for these great planes. Here we are close to Christmas with lots of fliers who have friends and relatives that would love to learn to fly. What could be better than to build one of these and give it away for Christmas? Sure, the thread is advertising. But it's advertising by a fellow RC enthusiast who has given a tremendous boost to our hobby.

I think these two planes are important. Anything that keeps the newbie flying while he's busily trying to reduce his learner plane to toothpicks or packing popcorn is something that will help grow our hobby.
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Old Dec 11, 2011, 09:11 PM
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I just don't understand the lack of enthusiasm for these great planes. Here we are close to Christmas with lots of fliers who have friends and relatives that would love to learn to fly. What could be better than to build one of these and give it away for Christmas? Sure, the thread is advertising. But it's advertising by a fellow RC enthusiast who has given a tremendous boost to our hobby.

I think these two planes are important. Anything that keeps the newbie flying while he's busily trying to reduce his learner plane to toothpicks or packing popcorn is something that will help grow our hobby.
Came out a month too late for me. I had already ordered the only EPP trainer kit/arf I could find. If I would have known it was coming out, I would likely have waited.
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Old Dec 12, 2011, 10:37 AM
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I just don't understand the lack of enthusiasm for these great planes. Here we are close to Christmas with lots of fliers who have friends and relatives that would love to learn to fly. What could be better than to build one of these and give it away for Christmas? Sure, the thread is advertising. But it's advertising by a fellow RC enthusiast who has given a tremendous boost to our hobby.

I think these two planes are important. Anything that keeps the newbie flying while he's busily trying to reduce his learner plane to toothpicks or packing popcorn is something that will help grow our hobby.
Yeah, I'm with you on this one. I know there are several of these planes flying locally. I have a 48" and a 36"

Maybe they are selling well but are so easy to get going that nobody is visiting the forum.
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Old Dec 12, 2011, 12:03 PM
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I just don't understand the lack of enthusiasm for these great planes. Here we are close to Christmas with lots of fliers who have friends and relatives that would love to learn to fly. What could be better than to build one of these and give it away for Christmas? Sure, the thread is advertising. But it's advertising by a fellow RC enthusiast who has given a tremendous boost to our hobby.

I think these two planes are important. Anything that keeps the newbie flying while he's busily trying to reduce his learner plane to toothpicks or packing popcorn is something that will help grow our hobby.
The Albatros would be a nice plane to teach my Grandson to fly on but its a bit pricey for a foamy. For 75 bucks I can almost buy three Slow Sticks.
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Old Dec 12, 2011, 04:25 PM
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The servos here http://www.valuehobby.com/towerpro-m...ini-servo.html have holes that are too small for the EZ connectors that came with the albatross kit. Should I try to find smaller easy connectors, arms with bigger holes, or use a different servo?
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Old Dec 12, 2011, 04:46 PM
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The servos here http://www.valuehobby.com/towerpro-m...ini-servo.html have holes that are too small for my EZ connectors. Should I try to find smaller easy connectors, arms with bigger holes, or use a different servo?
This wasn't quite the thread to post that question in, but why don't you get a small drill and open the holes up in the servo arms to fit the ez connectors?
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Old Dec 12, 2011, 05:16 PM
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This wasn't quite the thread to post that question in, but why don't you get a small drill and open the holes up in the servo arms to fit the ez connectors?
Ok I'll try that. I edited my question to mention the albatross that I'm building.
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Old Dec 12, 2011, 06:08 PM
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Ok I'll try that. I edited my question to mention the albatross that I'm building.
A 1/16 drill works great to do this job.
If you can't find one you can also heat up the end of the pushrod with a lighter and carefully melt the hole a little bigger.
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A 1/16 drill works great to do this job.
If you can't find one you can also heat up the end of the pushrod with a lighter and carefully melt the hole a little bigger.
Yes drilling it worked really well. I'm excited to put on the motor tomorrow.
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Old Dec 13, 2011, 05:12 AM
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The Albatros would be a nice plane to teach my Grandson to fly on but its a bit pricey for a foamy. For 75 bucks I can almost buy three Slow Sticks.
The SS and the Albatross are two totally different planes. They don,t fly the same. They are made out of different materials and there is no comparison in durability. They each have their place but I know which one will last the longest and can fly in the wind the best.
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Old Dec 13, 2011, 08:13 AM
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The SS and the Albatross are two totally different planes. They don,t fly the same. They are made out of different materials and there is no comparison in durability. They each have their place but I know which one will last the longest and can fly in the wind the best.
I'm not trying to put down your product Lee. I'm just saying that it seems pricey for a foam plane and there are other alternatives at a lower cost. I do like the wind handling characteristics as there is no shortage of windy days in our area at least on the days I want to fly. I also like the fact that the Albatross can handle a 2200 mah battery because several of my electrics already use that size.
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Old Dec 13, 2011, 11:11 AM
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To put the peican & albatross prices in perspective, they are about the same as the retail price for chicom epp trainer "ARFs," the sort that require a tear down and rebuild to fly right. Look up the Techone Funfly EPP Trainer retail price.
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Old Dec 13, 2011, 11:23 AM
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The SS and the Albatross are two totally different planes. They don,t fly the same. They are made out of different materials and there is no comparison in durability. They each have their place but I know which one will last the longest and can fly in the wind the best.
Look. I love my Slow Stick. But it shares the fragility of a Parkzone Vapor, only scaled up. The wings are flimsy, the plastic fittings will shatter, the fiberglass stick isn't good against a blow at right angles to its axis....

Can you make the SS better? Of course! With more dollars. What I see in the Albatross videos is a plane that flies as well as my Slow Stick. But it is ten times more crash proof, flies and penetrates in wind, appears to have a much wider speed envelope, yet retains the slow flight characteristics of a Slow Stick.

I don't see this as a comparable plane to a Slow Stick. You don't have to replace all the supplied tape, the plane comes with actual comprehensive directions without such additions as that hideous plastic wing thingy for the SS, The radio and servos are very protected in comparison to the SS.

I don't have a problem with the pricing on the Albatross and Pelican. They're kinda steep but I haven't checked out what's in the package. I HAVE looked at what is in the packages of Lee's flying wings and they're an excellent value.

I see the choices for a new flier of buying usually multiple learner planes or extensively rebuilding them as you learn or spending a little more to build an Albatross.

I love my Slow Stick. It's my favorite plane. But it's not an Albatross.
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Old Dec 13, 2011, 02:11 PM
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I just don't understand the lack of enthusiasm for these great planes.
It's too expensive. An EZ* clone is $40, and they throw in a $10 brushless motor with your purchase. And if we wanted to get someone into the hobby cheap, we'd just go buy them a Champ - same price, including shipping, as your models, but with motor, charger, receiver, servos, ESC, transmitter, and batteries included.

On a highly specific example, there's also the FIK-100 R/C glider, which is very similar. And $40. There's a pusher version out there, too.
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Old Dec 13, 2011, 02:28 PM
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These planes are fairly popular and may end up our number one sellers. These threads do not represent the market. Very few of the customers ever post.

I have to laugh when I see the comparisons with the other planes. These planes are not like those. I have seen so many EZ clones that are half tape and glue that I wonder if you actually know those planes. The Albatross can fly slower, The Albatross is quieter. The Albatross is EPP and can take much more abuse. Post your video of crashing your EZ clone and the damage. I know the EPO foam and it doesn't compare.

Newer flyers are often so focused on getting a low price they miss the real deal. Did you get cheap radios and servos and batteries too? Good luck!!

I didn't say not to buy the other planes. Go buy a few and try them. Just remember where to find us when you are ready for a plane that will last.

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