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Old Mar 06, 2013, 07:53 AM
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@hoggdoc : by "E-flight 3C 3200" I guess you mean 3S ?
Because if it's really 3C (load capacity), then it's a tad not enough

@knoxville : Whats your radio setup ?
Also, a vicious behaviour of the Naza when flying fast forward, it is sometime looking as if the machine becomes very slow to break and turn, to the point of seeming unresponsive, because this FC is very restrictive about the angles it will allow you in ATT/GPS modes...
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Old Mar 06, 2013, 10:50 AM
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The mystery of the drone flying above New York City
By Peter Weber | The Week – 6 hrs ago.. .
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After an Alitalia pilot has a frightening encounter with a UFO near JFK airport, there are more questions than answers

On Monday, the Obama administration told Congress that it's possible "to imagine an extraordinary circumstance" — like a 9/11-level attack — in which it would deploy an aerial drone to kill an American on U.S. soil. And quite coincidentally, that same day, the Federal Aviation Administration said a drone had been spotted in the airspace near Queens and Brooklyn. An Alitalia pilot landing at JFK airport had this jarring conversation with an air-traffic controller:



JFK controller: Uh, what did you see?
Alitalia pilot: We saw a drone, a drone aircraft
JFK controller: What altitude did you see that aircraft?
Alitalia pilot: About 1,500 feet.
You can listen to the raw audio below, but here are the basic details: The airplane was about three miles from JFK runway 31R when the pilot saw a black, unmanned aircraft with four propellers, about 3 feet wide. The drone was reportedly a frightening 200 feet away from the plane, some 1,750 feet in the air.
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What was this drone doing near JFK, and who was controlling it? The FAA wants to know, and so does the FBI. "The FBI is asking anyone with information about the unmanned aircraft or the operator to contact us," special agent John Giacalone said in a statement. "Our paramount concern is the safety of aircraft passengers and crew."

Without a better description, "it's impossible to tell if this might be some sort of heavy-duty unmanned aerial vehicle, or a hobbyist remote controlled gadget," says Adrian Chen at Gawker. But there are some clues: The NYPD doesn't fly drones — yet — and the description, if accurate, sounds more like a hobbyist quadrocopter. Plus, JFK is just a few miles from Floyd Bennett Field in Brooklyn, "a favorite spot for remote-controlled plane enthusiasts." Maybe one of those hobbyists decided to flout the FAA's rule that remote-controlled aircraft stay under 400 feet and stay in sight of the operator, who has to notify air traffic controllers if the aircraft will fly within three miles of an airport.

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"Whether it was a hobbyist breaking the Federal Aviation Administration’s 400-foot-altitude rule or a real spy vessel from the Evil Empire is unknown," says David Kravets at Wired. "Either way, there's a UFO out there and it came within 200 feet of the plane." That's frightening, and it's going to become more common after a new law, the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, takes effect. Under that law, "the FAA has a September 2015 deadline to open up U.S. skies to commercial and civil drones," says Ryan Gallagher at Slate.



While the word drone conjures up images of large military-style Predators or Reapers, in this case the aircraft seems to have been more in line with a radio-controlled plane used for recreational purposes. A similar incident was reported to have occurred in Denver last year, when a "mystery object" suspected of being a model aircraft nearly caused a collision at some 8,000 feet.... As drone technology becomes more affordable for private citizens to purchase, it follows that the risks will heighten, as the incidents in New York and Denver perhaps demonstrate. [Slate]
The near-miss was worrisome, but can we stop calling the aircraft a "drone"? says Adam Clark Estes at Vice. "The difference in wording seems slight, but the connotation is significant." People don't freak out over "a hobbyist whose remote-controlled aircraft flew too high," but the FBI asking about a rogue "drone" — to its credit, it didn't, opting for the more accurate "unnamed aircraft" — is a whole other matter, needlessly conjuring up the wars in Afghanistan and Yemen.
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From a 30,000-foot point of view, Tuesday morning's scare in the air is just the latest sign that the drone era has arrived and will be taking over our lives in increasingly local ways.... As far as anybody knows, the lone quadrocopter (or whatever it was) in Brooklyn was not a domestic strike. It was probably not a military aircraft. All signs point to a daring hobbyist having a fun afternoon. More broadly speaking, all signs point to America hearing a lot more reports like this as the hobby grows.
http://news.yahoo.com/mystery-drone-...095500293.html
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Old Mar 06, 2013, 11:04 AM
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It may have just exceeded its maximum angle when I bumped the sticks to make sure the nose was still facing me. Because I did get a video of it and it was slowly pulling up as I had the stick pulled back all the way, once it was in manual mode I am 90% sure I had full control but by then it was getting towards the highway and I drove that sucker in hard. If I get around to it ill post the video but it doesn't show much more than I explained. Thanks for your input everyone.
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There's a filibuster going on at the present time concerning government use of drones abroad and at home...
http://swampland.time.com/2013/03/06...ve-filibuster/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2819740.html
http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/

Drones are in the limelight, and unfortunately, it's their use as killing machines...
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Old Mar 06, 2013, 03:06 PM
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@knoxville :

In ATT and GPS mode the Naza won't let you tilt the machine more than a preset value, but thats a double edged blade, when you're going really fast forward, it can be really long to brake because you cannot angle the quad backward enough.

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To be honest, seen from Europe, this whole drone buzz thing is a bit funny to watch.
For the land of freedom you have an aweful lot of regulations, and a awful lot of people willing to restricts your already limited rights at the very first sign of whatever...

Now, seriously, I think the FPV is going too far, for sure.
I'd bet that this "drone" at JFK was just a machine that escaped its sh*tty TX.
Incompetency, and poor planing.
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Old Mar 06, 2013, 06:14 PM
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@knoxville :

In ATT and GPS mode the Naza won't let you tilt the machine more than a preset value, but thats a double edged blade, when you're going really fast forward, it can be really long to brake because you cannot angle the quad backward enough.
unless you gas it more at the right time.
I almost had some amazing video of my multirotor hanging in high winds and some fast runs around the yard but I did a hard stop maneuver...not fast enough at first so I gassed it hard. It got altitude but slowed way faster.
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The mystery of the drone flying above New York City
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a drone, black, 200ft away from a plane traveling at 200+ mph.
I call BS. Mine is about 24" across or better and I start to lose it at 80ft away unless it has a back drop of clouds and even then it is hard to see it enough to fly it.
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a drone, black, 200ft away from a plane traveling at 200+ mph.
I call BS. Mine is about 24" across or better and I start to lose it at 80ft away unless it has a back drop of clouds and even then it is hard to see it enough to fly it.
Good to see someone catching on. Remember if there isn't an issue for them to regulate it then you create the issue an we know the powers that be do that.
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Old Mar 06, 2013, 07:16 PM
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Guys,

Sorry if this is a repost but here we go:

I'm trying to setup a F550 for ...my boss who bought it after seeing my F450!

The naza gyro is acting weird:

- when I plug it in, the Y shows -19 ... and after about 30 seconds to a minute, it goes back to zero and the "check IMU" becomes available and "no need to calibrate" msg shows up.

If I unplug the battery and plug it again, the Y shows 0.1 or 0 ... and 5 seconds later the "check IMU" is available and everything is fine.

If I unplug the battery and wait 2-5 minutes and then plug it back, it is again at -19 for 30-45 seconds!! WHAT THE HELL?!!? I tried to fly it today and it almost attacked me ! that was really scary and now I think I now why it flew like that but is there an explanation?! and a permanent solution?!

thanks!

Phil
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Old Mar 06, 2013, 08:18 PM
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Guys,

Sorry if this is a repost but here we go:

I'm trying to setup a F550 for ...my boss who bought it after seeing my F450!

The naza gyro is acting weird:

- when I plug it in, the Y shows -19 ... and after about 30 seconds to a minute, it goes back to zero and the "check IMU" becomes available and "no need to calibrate" msg shows up.

If I unplug the battery and plug it again, the Y shows 0.1 or 0 ... and 5 seconds later the "check IMU" is available and everything is fine.

If I unplug the battery and wait 2-5 minutes and then plug it back, it is again at -19 for 30-45 seconds!! WHAT THE HELL?!!? I tried to fly it today and it almost attacked me ! that was really scary and now I think I now why it flew like that but is there an explanation?! and a permanent solution?!

thanks!

Phil
Sounds like a bad IMU.
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Old Mar 06, 2013, 10:41 PM
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Since everything is testing okay on the bench, I'm afraid you've got to chalk off your experience to a radio communication failure.
There might have been some interference issues.
Since you had the throttle almost wide open, the lean of the airframe might have exceeded the amount of angle (pitch or roll) that the Naza can cope with.
Were you in Manual mode?
I'd say your decision to set up Failsafe for future excursions is the best thing you can do right now.
Hopefully, it won't happen again...
Nope was in GPS mode. That is what I have concluded as well. Thanks for the input.

BTW incase anyone is interested I have discovered a way to use both Power off failsafe and the Spektrum 8000x/TM1000 combo. Initially after setting the power off failsafe, I reconnected the TM1000 telemetry unit and the fail-safe failed to work.

The secrete is to use a servo Y cable, with one end plugged to the 8000 bind/data port, another to the TM1000 data cable and the third is used as the binding port during the setting of the fail-safe.
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Old Mar 07, 2013, 08:18 AM
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Hey guys need help here,
I just install the naza with gps, everithing going straight forward and my maiden yesturday was a succes, i have a questions i dont understand how the low voltage warning and cut off work for my maiden i just turn off that option but i want to use it,,

What exactly is, No Load Voltage? And Voltage Lost? What numbers should i use here ?
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Old Mar 07, 2013, 08:29 AM
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Hey guys need help here,
I just install the naza with gps, everithing going straight forward and my maiden yesturday was a succes, i have a questions i dont understand how the low voltage warning and cut off work for my maiden i just turn off that option but i want to use it,,

What exactly is, No Load Voltage? And Voltage Lost? What numbers should i use here ?
On the first page of my blog there is a post entitled "Voltage Protection".
There is a fair amount of information there to get you started...
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Old Mar 07, 2013, 08:32 AM
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The best way to manage your battery is a timer (lots of TXs have these built in) and/or battery alarm. I have seen a lot of issues with the low voltage features built into the Naza. Aside from the issues I don't like the flight controller having control over MY multi and what it does. I wouldn't want it to decide that a slight sag in voltage means the battery is dead... while it is in a dangerous spot to land. I'd rather destroy a battery by running it down too far than let the Naza decide it's time to land... over water.
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