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Old Jan 28, 2013, 10:38 AM
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Very nicely done
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Very cool, can you post details of the steps necessary to accomplish the orbit. Also could the orbit be made a tighter circle and slower?
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That is REALLY a GREAT idea!
Imagine how fantastic it would be if you could dial in an optimum radius of the circle, like if you wanted to get in an entire house for example.
Guys,
I am really glad you liked the idea. I did the second take the last weekend trying to make a tighter circle. It is actually not a big problem, one just needs to play with roll, pitch and yaw constants. Tighter circle means increasing them all a bit.

Ok, what I made in my ER9X was that I added extra mix for roll, pitch and yaw. Each of the mix is activated by some (the same) switch, in my case I mapped Elevator D/R switch.

For e.g roll I added a mix, source is Full, weight is 40, switch is ELE and it does the Replace (you can Add, Multiply or Replace the value). Same for pitch and yaw

Roll 40% to the right
Pitch 50% forward
Yaw -15% to the left

So, when I flip the switch my stick values are replaced by constant values above. I can control throttle only. Maybe I will try "Add", insteaod of Replace, so I would be able to control the copter or make some manual adjustments.

My second test showed that when it's windy it's bad because it blows away the copter and it ends up in a spiral, not a circle. I'll post the video soon.

So this works the best when there is no wind.

Just for the reference, this is what we talk about
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 11:39 AM
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I should think your Naza will have survived, the BEC should not have put out the incorrect polarity but died in the attempt.
This sort of situation makes me sooooo mad.
The cheap-ass manufacturer could VERY easily have added diode polarity protection to their designs. It would add next to nothing to their cost and prevent this sort of simple mistake.
But then again, that would deprive them of selling you a replacement unit.

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Old Jan 28, 2013, 11:39 AM
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I need help...

I got my quad all set. But when I turn on the NAZA...No motor movement...I'm using a turnigy 9x

Here is a quick little video!

Dji NAZA no motors (1 min 24 sec)


I have not set the modes or any other switches.. .just the 4 main controls and the VU are attached via the servo leads on the NAZA.

The battery I think its fully charged...I used a EBAY buzzer...and its a 3s 4000mAh...so it flashed 11.v All --> 1 = 3.84v 2 = 3.83v 3 = 3.83v
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 11:43 AM
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I'll eat the cost, I made the mistake! Good to hear that it's probably my BEC and not the whole Naza. The replacement was 20 bucks shipped from one state over, not china so it could be worse!

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This sort of situation makes me sooooo mad.
The cheap-ass manufacturer could VERY easily have added diode polarity protection to their designs. It would add next to nothing to their cost and prevent this sort of simple mistake.
But then again, that would deprive them of selling you a replacement unit.

Regards
Bernd

Witespy-DJI NAZA F450 Flamewheel
2212/920kv DJI motors and Opto 30A ESC's
10x4 Gemfan Woodies Props / GoPro Hero HD2
Fat Shark Predator V2 FPV
AUW 3S-4000mah = 1585g
Spektrum TX DX-7 (original) / Spektrum RX AR6200
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 11:48 AM
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First Troubleshooting Step

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I need help...

I got my quad all set. But when I turn on the NAZA...No motor movement...I'm using a turnigy 9x

Here is a quick little video!

I have not set the modes or any other switches.. .just the 4 main controls and the VU are attached via the servo leads on the NAZA.

The battery I think its fully charged...I used a EBAY buzzer...and its a 3s 4000mAh...so it flashed 11.v All --> 1 = 3.84v 2 = 3.83v 3 = 3.83v
Have you calibrated your ESCs?
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 11:50 AM
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Have you calibrated your ESCs?
Have you executed CSC to start motors, you may need to bear down on manual a bit more before starting up. I had to and still have many questions floating around in brain!
All is ther ein manual it is just a bit hard to grasp without re-reading several times.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 11:55 AM
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Have you executed CSC to start motors, you may need to bear down on manual a bit more before starting up. I had to and still have many questions floating around in brain!
All is ther ein manual it is just a bit hard to grasp without re-reading several times.
Tim
If you watch his video, he's executing CSC.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 11:58 AM
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I need help...

I got my quad all set. But when I turn on the NAZA...No motor movement...I'm using a turnigy 9x

Here is a quick little video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-Aa9Hz_2Y

I have not set the modes or any other switches.. .just the 4 main controls and the VU are attached via the servo leads on the NAZA.

The battery I think its fully charged...I used a EBAY buzzer...and its a 3s 4000mAh...so it flashed 11.v All --> 1 = 3.84v 2 = 3.83v 3 = 3.83v
Step One: REMOVE THE DANG PROPS! Never Ever Ever try to start a system for the first time with the props on... esp indoors. What if you got something wrong and the motors went full throttle?! I heard kids in the back ground too...

Step Two: Turn off the Low Voltage failsafe till you get everything working. Lots of people set this up wrong and never get off the ground

Question, you said "I have not set the modes or any other switches" does this mean you have not plugged it into the Assistant and setup your flight control switch (ATTI/Manual)? You need to do this before flying.

After all of the above... esp step one... you need to make sure your ESCs are calibrated, work well with the Naza, and the motor idle speed is turned to High in the Assistant (if normal doesnt work).
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 12:30 PM
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@MCrites

Thanks for the added clarifications.
Too many times I give back an answer in so much detail that it turns off or confuses the questioner.
I was going to try to do this one a step at a time....
We'll get him going!
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 12:56 PM
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A Naza is working without the 5th channel plugged ?
If yes, what mode is it defaulting too ?
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 01:11 PM
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Step One: REMOVE THE DANG PROPS! Never Ever Ever try to start a system for the first time with the props on... esp indoors. What if you got something wrong and the motors went full throttle?! I heard kids in the back ground too...

Step Two: Turn off the Low Voltage failsafe till you get everything working. Lots of people set this up wrong and never get off the ground

Question, you said "I have not set the modes or any other switches" does this mean you have not plugged it into the Assistant and setup your flight control switch (ATTI/Manual)? You need to do this before flying.

After all of the above... esp step one... you need to make sure your ESCs are calibrated, work well with the Naza, and the motor idle speed is turned to High in the Assistant (if normal doesnt work).
My noobness is off the charts. I'm a teenager and the kids are my little brothers.

The escs need to be calibrated? How do I do this?

I have not set the flight mode switch...do I need to before I can fly? Is this the reason it is not working?
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 01:25 PM
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Start At The Beginning

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My noobness is off the charts. I'm a teenager and the kids are my little brothers.

The escs need to be calibrated? How do I do this?

I have not set the flight mode switch...do I need to before I can fly? Is this the reason it is not working?
Yes to ESC calibration and to Flight Mode Switch.
You might be a teenager, but you're man enough to tell us your level of expertise.
That goes a long way with me!
You need to read the current version of the Naza Manual.
http://download.dji-innovations.com/..._Manual_en.pdf
Follow the manual's setup scenario.
It mentions ESC calibration in a sidebar on page 8.
Do what MC has suggested, and come back to us with specific questions.
We'll explain calibrations, etc. as you come to that.
And, like I said in a previous post, let's take this one step at a time...
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 01:28 PM
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Welcome v00d0o!

As TJ said, read the manual. Then read it again because you won't remember 80% of it. Then come back with questions.

EDIT** Keep off those props till you know everything spins in the right direction etc
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 02:52 PM
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Or tie the quad to this plastic box thingy, and put heavy stuff inside, don't under estimate its lifting ablities...
And the cutting power of the blades
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 04:01 PM
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Ok I got one of 4 motors running

HOW EXCITING!

one seems to be stuttering...? The others aren't moving for some reason

Close... (0 min 16 sec)


I haven't done ESC calibration...I think I may try that right now.

I set up the switch. Manual and Attitude modes. (I was out of the house for 2 hours..but Now I'm back and ready to get this thing in the air)
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