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Old Apr 07, 2012, 12:20 PM
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I do Router based CNC cutting on a ShopBot machine.

Steel Rule Dies can be expensive.
I used to have access to the expensive Maple Ply Scraps.
The Die guys use a serious laser to cut the channels in the thick maple Ply base
before inserting all the Steel Cutting Edges into the slots.

Steel rule dies are also NOT easily Changeable.

You do NOT need a laser to accurately cut foam or Ply.
Paying for a kit is still a long term cheaper way to go.

If you want your own flexability and system in house, then,
Look around for an older Shopbot for sale or build your own CNC.
Even the Phlatprinters are less than $8000.

Mine is Router based.
Routers cut Foam with a nice clean square edge, as long as you "Climb Cut".
I have heard that laser tend to melt over or round the foam edges.
However, They do not have the foam dust.

Bob
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Old Apr 09, 2012, 11:20 PM
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Well here's my first MPF project, a Divinity 42" wing. My parts list is way overkill but it's what I had on hand. Going to be curious to see how it flies (if we ever get a calm day). The foam was great to work with though. Cut nice both by blade and on the hotwire.

Also definitely keep the 24"x48" because it enabled me to make this wing out of one piece!
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Old Apr 10, 2012, 12:07 AM
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Hi All,

Been lurking... I'm in the second shipment batch - just missed the first round.

Did someone mention the need for a phlatprinter? I have one for sale in the classifieds. $1,180.00 including a plywood shipping crate built by me.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1589767

I have a laser on a ship heading to Oakland at this very moment - due in on Wed. April 11th - I bought it to produce 4 kits I've designed and some engraving for my machine shop.

Looking forward to my first box of foam

Very happy you're doing this MPF!!! I like the 24"x48" size - most bang for the buck.

Cheers and Carry On!

Gary
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Old Apr 10, 2012, 08:18 AM
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GLM as much as I'd love a Phlatprinter I have three problems...

1. No where to put it.
2. Not sure I would get enough use out of it to make it worth it.
3. Shiny rock for the g/f just sucked up all my money.

Unfortunately for you with the Phlatprinter 3 out probably going to be tough to get a decent amount of money for it. Stuff in this hobby drops in value so fast and many of the people who want machines like that have the money to buy the latest and greatest. Best of luck to ya.
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Old Apr 10, 2012, 09:26 AM
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GLM as much as I'd love a Phlatprinter I have three problems...

1. No where to put it.
2. Not sure I would get enough use out of it to make it worth it.
3. Shiny rock for the g/f just sucked up all my money.

Unfortunately for you with the Phlatprinter 3 out probably going to be tough to get a decent amount of money for it. Stuff in this hobby drops in value so fast and many of the people who want machines like that have the money to buy the latest and greatest. Best of luck to ya.
I guess I've been facing some of that... Mine is built however and the Phlatprinter 3 costs $1700.00.

But anyway Thanks for your words of encouragement

Gary
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Old Apr 10, 2012, 09:45 AM
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I guess I've been facing some of that... Mine is built however and the Phlatprinter 3 costs $1700.00.

But anyway Thanks for your words of encouragement

Gary
Going a little off topic here... sorry.

Gary you live in a major metro area. I would probably try putting it up on Craigslist more generically as a CNC cutter. It can do more then cut airplanes, you might find a wider market and won't have to mess with shipping it.
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Old Apr 10, 2012, 10:18 AM
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Hey Gary (GLM),

First thing that threw me off was your location says 6000+ miles from my location, but is probably more like 1500? Maybe you need to re-do the profile unless I'm missing something there.

Second is wish you luck as a Phlatprinter is nice. My issue is if we start to go over 1K then I'd prefer to build or acquire a true flatbed router that could also cut thicker, or 3D parts. dz1sfb (Ken) made his Phlat out of metal, cool for sure. The last thing is used machinery probably scares people (wear/tear) etc. So I'm not a machinery sales person, but was a Moldmaker/prototype Machinist, and have CNC programing experiance. Used equipment I would be leary until seen in person, and wooden construction???? Most of us like to build things too BTW. Driving to pick up a machine even 1500 miles away is a bit over the edge. I've looked at the Phlatprinter many times, but so do wish you and a potential buyer a fair sale where you both feel value was to be had. Good Luck!

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Old Apr 10, 2012, 10:56 AM
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Hey Gary (GLM),

First thing that threw me off was your location says 6000+ miles from my location, but is probably more like 1500? Maybe you need to re-do the profile unless I'm missing something there.

Second is wish you luck as a Phlatprinter is nice. My issue is if we start to go over 1K then I'd prefer to build or acquire a true flatbed router that could also cut thicker, or 3D parts. dz1sfb (Ken) made his Phlat out of metal, cool for sure. The last thing is used machinery probably scares people (wear/tear) etc. So I'm not a machinery sales person, but was a Moldmaker/prototype Machinist, and have CNC programing experiance. Used equipment I would be leary until seen in person, and wooden construction???? Most of us like to build things too BTW. Driving to pick up a machine even 1500 miles away is a bit over the edge. I've looked at the Phlatprinter many times, but so do wish you and a potential buyer a fair sale where you both feel value was to be had. Good Luck!

Fred
Thanks Fred

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Cheers!

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Old Apr 10, 2012, 05:25 PM
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First International order of MPF(seconds) has arrived safe and sound right around 1200 hours today . More to come later when time permits
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Old Apr 10, 2012, 06:05 PM
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First International order of MPF(seconds) has arrived safe and sound right around 1200 hours today . More to come later when time permits

Which method of shipment did you end up using, and what was the cost? My package of seconds is arriving in Neche ND, tomorrow... but it's a 3 hr round trip and gas prices are going up, up, up!

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Old Apr 10, 2012, 06:42 PM
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First International order of MPF(seconds) has arrived safe and sound right around 1200 hours today . More to come later when time permits
I am happy for my friend Wilfor.....
How much did it cost.

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Old Apr 10, 2012, 07:17 PM
Build straight - Fly twisty
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Seconds? Seconds?
No, no. This is the Pre Formed Structural Special Econo Foam.
The special thickness variations allow the skilled builder to select the required cross-sectional profile to suit demanding applications.
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Old Apr 10, 2012, 08:10 PM
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Okay wife went shopping i got a few minutes . The Good and the Bad

1 : Cost Foam was $25 US or $25.50 cad
Shipping UPS $35.31US or $36.22 cad ( I know Bad idea but had to try them )
Brokerage Fee at the Door $22.32 cad

Total $84.04 cad or $5.25 a sheet

Now we could ship USPS for between $39 -41 and then another fee is hit or miss at the border . So far ive been charged on 1 of about 15 packages ive shipped . Pretty good odds .

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The only damage .. Im not Mike so a little damage on the side and some mushed corners is no biggy i throw away more scrap then that
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All i have to compare to is Dollar store foam so this stuff looks pretty good . I cant wait to get a box of the good stuff . The Seconds will work well for alot of stuff but i hope to get another box as well


The Bad :

My wife had to stay home today because of sick kids so she was home for the delivery ... So much for sneaking it in the House
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Old Apr 10, 2012, 08:24 PM
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The Bad :

My wife had to stay home today because of sick kids so she was home for the delivery ... So much for sneaking it in the House
Glad your shipment arrived safely Wilfor.

Maybe some folks need their packages shipped in a plain brown wrapper. LOL

Ken
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Old Apr 10, 2012, 09:10 PM
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I have found it very hard to sneak a large package past a wife.
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