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Old Oct 06, 2012, 09:16 AM
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All you Polaris guys should be keeping the upper fuselage compartment water tight by mounting the ESC with the heat sink sticking up through the upper skin. The ESC can be held in place with RTV or something that will keep the water out. That way you don't need any holes to bring in cooling air.
Corosion X is the way to go . joe
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 09:30 AM
UMs & parkflyers... for now.
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Hey, Useless... it's just a design choice. I had almost 50 flights on Polaris.Mk.1 before a midair did her in. About half the flights were ROW and I never had a problem. Even when she flipped once, little water entered... you ever hold a container upside down and push it under water?

All you profile guys should build something with a fuselage by mounting a second piece of foam parallel to the one you got. The RX can be protected from the outside world.. That way you will use more of this wonderful MPF building material.

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Old Oct 06, 2012, 05:04 PM
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All you Polaris guys should be keeping the upper fuselage compartment water tight by mounting the ESC with the heat sink sticking up through the upper skin. The ESC can be held in place with RTV or something that will keep the water out. That way you don't need any holes to bring in cooling air.
Geek,

Like most scratch builds or kit assemblies it is the builders choice. Polaris requires a hatch to change batteries, an option is another hatch to access ESC/receiver/servos, etc. I chose to make my ESC's water resistant through the use of Liquid Tape with my first Polaris and Corrosion X with the second and the XL, which has the ESC mounted with heat sink through the upper skin.

To date I have dunked all three, and had seam leaks and depron cracks on the first Polaris. All three receivers and ESCs have gotten wet...no malfunctions after drying for a couple of days.

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Old Oct 08, 2012, 01:20 PM
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Well, that's another advantage of using MPF over Depron -- no stress cracks in yer seaplanes! In fact, I had not even considered building any seaplanes (I hate water, it's wet) until I saw how MPF responds to forming stresses. A seaplane built from MPF won't start leaking on its second flight, nor will it suddenly gather water in places you thought were sealed up, nor will it commit any other stupidity, all because a panel made from MPF won't develop stress cracks at its edges. Depron seaplanes do all of the above. I know because I've seen it. (Other flyboys' planes; I ain't gots no seaplanes.)

Now I'm thinking about getting at least one seaplane done before the cold weather sets in because a lot of my FBs have seaplanes and they tell me I'm missing out on some great times. One guy has a largish pond right behind his condo and a bunch of people fly right there. I'd like to join 'em if I thought I had a plane that would remain dry. An MPF plane will do that.
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 07:44 PM
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well, my last bach of MPF didnt last long, just ordered another batch!!!!

found great glue to use with mpf, "Foam Tac" awesome stuff with mpf! also use it to make foam tac hinges on all the builds so far!!!!
all the pics are with foam tac and mpf

i got the foam tac from NEAT fair this past month, its not in the market as of then but i believe it is or soon be, made by Beacon glue,

heres the link to the distributor for foam tac build and test if you guys are interested
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1741896

-pete
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 07:46 PM
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well, my last bach of MPF didnt last long, just ordered another batch!!!!

found great glue to use with mpf, "Foam Tac" awesome stuff with mpf! also use it to make foam tac hinges on all the builds so far!!!!
all the pics are with foam tac and mpf

i got the foam tac from NEAT fair this past month, its not in the market as of then but i believe it is or soon be, made by Beacon glue,

heres the link to the distributor for foam tac build and test if you guys are interested
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1741896
heres mpf w/ foam tac hinge
foam tac glue hinge (0 min 25 sec)


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Old Oct 08, 2012, 08:19 PM
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I have been to the beacon glue site and even called them to find some .Their places to buy it does me no help around here.I have a hobbylobby store here who i dont realy know how their workers can tie their shoes in the morning let alone know if they sell it. I also have a michals store around here but they dont stock half of what they say they do.Iam going to try to call both in the morning to find foam tak and maybe i can find someone who is alert there. I truely think beacon should contact more hobby shops and sell there or have mpf sell it for them ,then we would at least know where to get it for shure. joe
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 08:45 PM
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I have used the Beacon Foam Tac as well, and like it for various MPF applications. I bought mine from their website.

Maybe MPF can stock this product along with Gorilla Glue White Formula. Not a promise, but a thought starter. We are going to add carbon fiber to our offerings.

Ken
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 10:49 PM
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Geek: the superTwin that shows as my latest blog comment has an MPF fuselage (wing is a recycled blucore Trainer1.5 wing hence the big T in the name) The fuse is the side profile of the T1.5 made into a full box fuse (upside down and added step). It's a really fun flyer off the pond, so I can heartily suggest you consider trying a seaplane now that we have the good building materials availablel!
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 10:52 PM
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We'll see. Water is still wet, but I have a lot more time available now that my current client is limiting me to 40 hours per week. That sucks, but it means I can build more aircraft for myself and others.
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 10:54 PM
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wow that was fast! The trick for me and water planes is to have a long stick and a small spincast rod and reel with a coat hanger hook. That way I can fish it out when I do something stupid. . . . . .
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 11:47 PM
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I wondered if anyone had tried the Loctite GO2 Glue. A search only shows a couple of posts about it. I bought a bottle today and glued some dollar tree foam together and to balsa. Nice to use, it doesn't foam so it's much cleaner than white Gorilla Glue and doesn't require water (I still have some of that on my fingers from last week, the glue, not water). It's about the consistancy of thick CA. It sets in 30 minutes so there is some working time and fully cures in 24 hours. Loctite says it's good for polystyrene. We'll see how it rips apart tomorrow. If it's good maybe I can build a neat SeaBee that floats after a little bounce like Stringers. (really enjoyed the video) Oh, wait a minute, it says "water resistant". Is that something like "bug repellent" that only works a little?
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Old Oct 09, 2012, 11:21 AM
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I like FoamTac for making good looking joints, but for strength nothing compares to Gorilla glue!
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 05:00 PM
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Hey, guys, I have updated the website and started a gallery of MPF planes. I'll be updating it as time allows.

Also, have the shipping costs for Canada and AK/HI built into the paypal button. Hopefully it will work correctly. Anyone want to be the guinea pig for that?
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Old Oct 10, 2012, 05:04 PM
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Quit lookin at me .....
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