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Old Nov 20, 2011, 04:09 AM
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http://youtu.be/VNTutKUq3Is

This is my first ever video, thought it should be of something cool.
GREAT MOVIE!!!!
We have a name for this kind of throwing style...INGO style. Coming from Stefan Wahlberg that have this style and the resemblence to Ingemar Johansson ( a boxer that beat Floyd Pattersson -59). Look at the throw in detail....slow, slow, slow and suddely everything in the end!

/Jonas
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Old Nov 20, 2011, 05:01 AM
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His Polaris utilizes multilayer UD carbon as skin fabric. This special layup enables a super stiff wing at a low weight, e.g. Hugh's ~270 g Polaris. It will be used as our 'standard' layup for the coming year./Jonas Ekman
Really great, such a light full carbon plane is incredible, specially when you look at the wing area of the Polaris.
What type of carbon is it ? Imagine two layers in opposite direction ?
Great job
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Old Nov 20, 2011, 11:52 AM
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Thanks for the tips, Jonas! I will make some more ballast. I only have one 30gr slug. I will try the shallow dive with added camber.
Paul
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Old Nov 20, 2011, 11:56 AM
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Really great, such a light full carbon plane is incredible, specially when you look at the wing area of the Polaris.
What type of carbon is it ? Imagine two layers in opposite direction ?
Great job
Loïc
It is the new "spread tow" that Vladimir Models uses. They make it themselves. It is two layers of uni at 30 deg to each other, not 45 like standard spread tow. The orientation allows for a lighter layup but with the same strength properties. It's really cool fabric but not cheap.
Paul
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Old Nov 20, 2011, 12:13 PM
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Maiden

How fair is it to other pilots when this glider is able to create it's own worm hole? much like in space the launch is completely silent.

Hoping to get out during the week and fine tune the flight phases per Jonas E. recommendations. I am feeling very confident with my choice of glider.
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Old Nov 20, 2011, 12:14 PM
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It is the new "spread tow" that Vladimir Models uses. They make it themselves. It is two layers of uni at 30 deg to each other, not 45 like standard spread tow. The orientation allows for a lighter layup but with the same strength properties. It's really cool fabric but not cheap.
Paul
Strange it doesn't look 30g spreadtow used in Blaster 3 or Maxa...
And on the Polaris photos UD looks to be at 45°, not 30°.
Hope Jonas or Mathias can tell us more.
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Old Nov 20, 2011, 01:39 PM
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Eric,

Just hold your new wing with our light layup!!!! Its leaving Sweden tomorrow. Weight: 127g including servos. You'll end up with a AUW of around 245g

That's something for flat conditions!!!

/Jonas
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Old Nov 20, 2011, 02:12 PM
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The unicarbon is so thin that we use a two layer lay-up on the light wings with fibre orientation of +/-30degrees.
On the standard version we use a three layer unicarbon lay-up. Orientation +45/-45/0 degrees.

Regards
Mattias

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Strange it doesn't look 30g spreadtow used in Blaster 3 or Maxa...
And on the Polaris photos UD looks to be at 45°, not 30°.
Hope Jonas or Mathias can tell us more.
Loïc
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Old Nov 20, 2011, 02:16 PM
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Eric,

Just hold your new wing with our light layup!!!! Its leaving Sweden tomorrow. Weight: 127g including servos. You'll end up with a AUW of around 245g

That's something for flat conditions!!!

/Jonas
Is that weight with the special Mojo in it?... Sounds very nice Jonas!

Looking forward to it.

Eric Lanning
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Old Nov 20, 2011, 03:43 PM
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How fair is it to other pilots when this glider is able to create it's own worm hole? much like in space the launch is completely silent.

Hoping to get out during the week and fine tune the flight phases per Jonas E. recommendations. I am feeling very confident with my choice of glider.
Now you're just rubbing it in!

Again, where do I send my money to join this club?
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Old Nov 21, 2011, 01:58 AM
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How fair is it to other pilots when this glider is able to create it's own worm hole? much like in space the launch is completely silent.

Hoping to get out during the week and fine tune the flight phases per Jonas E. recommendations. I am feeling very confident with my choice of glider.
Waiting for your next order Håkan....

Have you sold that other cr&%¤p you bought this autum yet? It was soo last decade to buy that... We are in -11 now!!

/J
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Old Nov 21, 2011, 02:38 AM
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Now you're just rubbing it in!

Again, where do I send my money to join this club?

1. I guess it was THAT obvious!

2. Send your money to Herrljunga MFK in Sweden and we'll send it to Jonas and get more Polaris!
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Old Nov 21, 2011, 02:58 AM
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Waiting for your next order Håkan....

Have you sold that other cr&%¤p you bought this autum yet? It was soo last decade to buy that... We are in -11 now!!

/J
Ouch!.. no need to rub in it smartiepants!!
Um, how soon can you deliver?
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Old Nov 21, 2011, 10:05 AM
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I don't care for thermal as I add ballast, only for wind and flight task.
5x2 minutes doesn't require as much ballast as last flight, 5min.
This year I've flown anything from 245g up to 400g.
Example of last flight 5min max.
My best model was (don't ask) at 275g and I ballasted to 305g @ 3m/s, 330g @ 4-5m/s, 360g @ 6-7m/s, all in @>7m/s
I don't have that much sticktime on the Polaris so it wasn't until late this season I flew with 400g and also did some adjustments to my flyingstyle and the model set-up.
As long as you can keep launch height I don't think you will loose by adding ballast.

I tend to be conservative with ballast so I keep telling me
-I've never felt I had too much ballast

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Mattias

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Mattias, Jonas, and Jonas, when are you guys adding ballast and how much? i know that ballast is more a function of the thermal activity than wind, but assuming the lift is still there, when do you add ballast and how much do you add? paul
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Old Nov 21, 2011, 03:10 PM
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Håkan, Put a peg on that old ASW27 of mine, maybe it´s a winner
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