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Old Jul 02, 2001, 06:12 AM
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Ezoners at the York Electric Fly-in (UK)

The York Electric Fly-in had a good turn out, I am starting to like these racecourse events!

I met a few more ezoners as well. Mark Haigh has a Kyosho F-16 with a brushless motor in it which we were discussing.
I met Nigel Hawes (FLY ELECTRIC) who was kind enough to let me fly his speed 400 Tecano, what a model! It is so stable, with a wide range of speeds and 8 minute flights…the Hawk was similar, but with a pusher instead. Very light, strong balsa construction, I would recommend these to anyone.

There was an all up last down competition, which was great, with certain participants complaining that they had had enough and would like to land… I used my modified Terry but at nearly double the weight of the stock setup it wasn’t going to thermal too well!
Anyway with 8 500AR’s and a two minute motor run (which is all we were allowed) I climbed to the limits of my eyesight and… was second down!

There was a MF480 /Kontronic powered plane which won the prize for scale, I think. It flew really well, and was a Mig17 style jet and I would really like to know what it was, if anyone who was there knows?

Thanks to Ebor Silent Flyers for hosting the event, Eric, and Margaret, who was in charge of transmitter control did an excellent job.

So were any more ezoners at the event? Did you enjoy it as much as I did?


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Old Jul 02, 2001, 07:19 AM
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Kyri

Unfortunately I missed the York fly-in due to other committments, but it does sound like you had a great time- a bit windy wasn't it?

My mate Kev Mullarkey - a new ezoner- was dead made up that he collected first place in the Vintage competition with his Sig Rascal that he flew for the first time at Chester last week. Kev did a lovely job on this model (as always) and it's nice to see that rewarded - mind you I don't know if the non-PC busty pilot is truly Vintage, eh Kev?

The EDF that looked a bit like a Mig-15 was apparently a Luftwaffe jet- from Kev's description of a T-tail Mig-15 lookalike I would guess a Focke-Wulf Ta-183
http://users.visi.net/~djohnson/fw/ta183-i.html

or much much less likely a Messerschmitt P1106 variant (only because of the T-tail)
http://www.chez.com/sharkit/messerchmittp1106Ttail/

Any idea whose it was?

Maybe see you at Walsall?

cheers

Brian

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Old Jul 02, 2001, 07:29 AM
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Brian,
Yes Kev's Sig Rascal was very nice indeed and certainly deserved the prize.
The wind on the day was good for me, because I didn't have to run quite as fast when handlaunching the T-33 and F-16, and the downwind passes were a little more exciting as well!

I spoke to the guy who built the Mig lookalike but didn't ask him what it was, wish I had now.

By the way, cheers for the video and tell me more about Walsall...

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Old Jul 02, 2001, 08:24 AM
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Good day at York. I missed Chester as I was on holiday (slumming it in Miami!). I wish Id taken my KY F16 to fly, but then again I dont like flying (crashing!) with an audience. Good to put faces to the names on the ezone. See everybody at Walsall (hopefully).
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Old Jul 02, 2001, 05:42 PM
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Hi Guys,
Nice to see you at York, Leccyflyer, you missed a good un!
The EDF jet was a Messerschmitt "HUCKEBEIN", if any of you have visited the LUFT 42 site there is a GIF of one scrolling across the screen!
I took a snap of the guy with it for the column and I'm trying to get the guy's name from Eric.
I was very humbled to pick up 1st pprize in the sport category with the Hawk and Tucano, as I'm a pretty mediocre flyer - I didn't even know there were any prizes! But it capped a smashing day off nicely.
>>KYRI<< You flew the Tucano around with style - it's sometimes nice to watch someone else fly your model as you can stand back from things a bit rather than having to concentrate. You're the only other person I've trusted it with so far, but it has served its purpose now so I guess I'll be handing the TX round a bit more now!
Hope to get to Walsall,
Nige.
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Old Jul 03, 2001, 03:26 AM
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Didn't get to York

However, I was very impressed with Nige's Hawk at Chester!

Thinking back I really wish I'd taken my Twinstar/camera combo, just to show how many people went.

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Old Jul 03, 2001, 04:06 AM
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Aww, I took one look at the wind on Sunday morning and thought it'd be a wasted journey - looks like a bad call.

Mark, do you fly in or near Barnsley?
I work in Cudworth and have occasionally flown on the old spoil heaps at Grimethorpe - there's a handy lake there too for any flying boats.

However, I am looking for a better venue...

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Old Jul 03, 2001, 04:25 AM
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Moogee, our local club field is very close to Grimethorpe. Do you know the old reclaimed pit stack between Lyons bakery and Readfearns glass works. We fly over the back of the hill, facing the rear of Cudworth. Im suprised youve not been approached by some of our club members, a few of them live and work in the Grimethorpe area. Pop down to the field if youre in the area, theres normally somebody flying Saturday or Sunday afternoon. The entrance to the field is the small dirt track parallel with the entrance to the glass works car park. Theres a locked gate, but if you hang about long enough, somebody usually turns up (best time is between 1pm and 2pm).
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Old Jul 05, 2001, 04:44 AM
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Hi Mark,

Not certain exactly where you mean. The spoil I'm referring to is on the new link road they made - I fly slope on those heaps as they get the prevailing wind, but usually in my lunchhour. Have you got a grid ref or something for the field? or perhaps from www.streetmap.co.uk

Brian, thanks for your response to my xtals prob. Definitely a tricky one.
Hope to make the next meet as I'm 90% finished on my new correx plane. (the little one of the two you saw)
The fuse is now complete, quite scale looking and weighs just 48g but is incredibly strong. Can't wait to fly it.

Cheers, Morgan
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Old Jul 05, 2001, 05:02 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by FLY ELECTRIC:
[B]Hi Guys,
Nice to see you at York, Leccyflyer, you missed a good un!
The EDF jet was a Messerschmitt "HUCKEBEIN", if any of you have visited the LUFT 42 site there is a GIF of one scrolling across the screen!
I took a snap of the guy with it for the column and I'm trying to get the guy's name from Eric.
[B]

Nigel

I know I know sounds like it was a good do.

BTW the Huckebein was a Focke-Wulf design (Ta-183) rather than a Messerschmitt one - if that is what it was- and it certainly sounds like it from the descriptions here.

cheers

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Old Jul 05, 2001, 05:35 PM
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What do I know!?1 (only a columnist!)
You can see where the Mig 15 and the SAAB something-or-other got their inspiration from!
The slope Huckebeins both needed anhedral to stop them dutch rolling; but this one seemed to be very stable without.
Those 2000RCs were almost untouchable after the flight and all this from a brushless 400!
Great performance though.
Brushless 400s seem to give 600 performance and current draw for the same physical size as a 400 can motor - almost goes against the 400 grain! It would be nice to see a 280 size brushless with the performance and current draw of a 400, perhaps this is in the pipeline?
800ARs are the largest practical cells for the 400 models I play with, so unless this happens I'm afraid I'll be sticking to cheap £3 can 400s for now!
cheers,
Nige.
PS just looked it up - it was an FW! Have you been on LUFT 42 yet? NH.
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Old Jul 05, 2001, 06:24 PM
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Nige

Luft '46 shurely?

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Old Jul 05, 2001, 07:26 PM
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> What do I know!

No comment.

> It would be nice to see a 280 size brushless with the performance and current draw of a 400, perhaps this is in the pipeline?

No not in the pipeline, small brushless motors with S400 power outputs have been around for some time, in no particular order:
Astro 010
Astro 020
Hacker B20S
Hacker B20L
Lehner 1010
Lehner 1015
Lehner 1020

Perhaps you don't read the mags or surf the net? ;-)

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Old Jul 06, 2001, 04:05 AM
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A saucer of milk for Neil?

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Old Jul 06, 2001, 04:50 PM
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A saucer of milk for Neil?

tim
NOW, NOW, children, STOP SQUABBLING!!
I must admit I don't read the mags much or surf the net as I'm so damn busy trying to encourage people into electric flight at a low-entry-cost level, and producing low-cost kits that fly really well on low-cost gear such as the £3 can motors that make the Smart Dart, Hawk & Tucano go like stink.
this may explain why I'm not up there at the "cutting edge" of thechnology like some of you guys; I still have loads to learn.
But it is very important to keep things cheap and simple for the readers of my column, there are other columnists and indeed specialised mags that deal with the more advanced stuff.
As for "what do I know?" well, perhaps not much, but enough to have loads of fun on a small budget!
Nige.

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