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Old Aug 06, 2012, 01:16 PM
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Boinked it on the nose this weekend and bent my prop shaft. It seems from reading this thread that most prefer the V1 2300kv motor over the 2500kv? Is that unanimous? Are there any downsides?

I also read somewhere (Carbon Cub thread?) that someone may be selling stronger replacement prop shafts for this. Can someone point me in the right directions?

Thanks in advance!!! Love this little plane!
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Old Aug 06, 2012, 01:41 PM
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Boinked it on the nose this weekend and bent my prop shaft. It seems from reading this thread that most prefer the V1 2300kv motor over the 2500kv? Is that unanimous? Are there any downsides?

I also read somewhere (Carbon Cub thread?) that someone may be selling stronger replacement prop shafts for this. Can someone point me in the right directions?

Thanks in advance!!! Love this little plane!
I fly mine on the 3000kv GeeBee/Stryker motor. I'm one of the few that have tested all three motors 2300,2500,3000. With the 2300kv motor you'll have to get a gws 5043 prop. With the 3000 you can use the 5030 or stock(not recommended though as the stock prop is a little to thick to be efficient).

From this point on when I say 2300 I mean 2300kv + 5043prop and when I say 3000 I mean 3000kv + 5030prop.

Neutral points:
The power draw on both is almost identical <2mAh difference over 5 min of flight.
Both have more than enough power for easy unlimited vertical at 4+min on good packs.

Pro/Cons:
The 3000 has slightly better acceleration and hold speed in tight turns better.
The 2300 unloads more in the air resulting in slightly higher top speed

The 2300 is whisper quiet and that is offending most whispers!
The 3000 sounds like an angry hornets nest
*I personally like the sound but if you fly in a park or have sensitive neighbors it is a HUGE difference. I can use the sound of the 3000 motor for landing to know that the power setting is just right.

*Edit: I almost forgot: The 2300 will allow you to use some other more unusual props like the 6030 or the 5x3x3 three bladed prop. I have used the 5x3x3 on the 3000 but it cuts flight times to just below 5 min on a BB240 and that is to short for me Although it looks sexy on there.

Prop adapter: Well ICU's Shapeways store sells this one but I know it is slightly heavier than the stock one. I personally have only ever broke one and that was a full on crash of the plane. I've never broke a prop adapter on any landing/taxi ever.

-Brian
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Old Aug 06, 2012, 01:46 PM
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The 2300 is whisper quiet and that is offending most whispers!
Just to give an idea of how quiet... my servos make more noise!
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Old Aug 06, 2012, 07:51 PM
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Boinked it on the nose this weekend and bent my prop shaft. It seems from reading this thread that most prefer the V1 2300kv motor over the 2500kv? Is that unanimous? Are there any downsides?

I also read somewhere (Carbon Cub thread?) that someone may be selling stronger replacement prop shafts for this. Can someone point me in the right directions?

Thanks in advance!!! Love this little plane!
Definitely the 2300 motor. Although its so quiet you lose the feedback you get from the sound of the motor. I find myself at WOT simply because I can't hear the darn thing to tell me to slow down.
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Old Aug 06, 2012, 11:52 PM
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Had my maiden over at the park just before sunset. Flew great, until the motor cut out 30 secs into it. The Beast went in from about 50' up. I seemed to have functional control surfaces and guided her in best I could. Fortunately I maidened over a football field of the softest grass that hadn't seen a mover in over a week. No damage.

Second attempt saw a nice takeoff and flew a quick circuit inside the running track I used as a runway. And again, motor cut out. Took a 40' plunge, this time breaking off the left wheel pants.

Flew a couple batts through the Trojan again, then came back to the Beast hoping to get at least a five minute flight out of it. Replaced the batt with another, then once again, the motor just abruptly quit and didn't respond to throttle input within the first minute of flight. This time as it went in, I had zero control over the control surfaces. Right side wheel pants busted in half.

So it just died on me mid-flight 3 times, all within the first minute. The ambient temp was 70 degrees(F) so I don't think OTP is to blame.

Anybody have any ideas what these symptoms suggest?
Update: I finally got it mailed out to Horizon today. They said they'll replace it.

Looks like Horizon has the Beast stocked again.
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I maided my 3DS several days ago. Ran 2 batteries through it on the bench to make sure the servos worked. First flight I got ESC cut off at about 2 minutes. Replaced battery got some weird wing wobbling ESC cut,off elevator quit. Nosed in from about 50' tore lower L wing off!
Called HH sent entire plane in.
Hope I get a new one with the "new" brick!
Great customer support!
Poor quality control!
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Old Aug 07, 2012, 10:43 AM
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I maided my 3DS several days ago. Ran 2 batteries through it on the bench to make sure the servos worked. First flight I got ESC cut off at about 2 minutes. Replaced battery got some weird wing wobbling ESC cut,off elevator quit. Nosed in from about 50' tore lower L wing off!
Called HH sent entire plane in.
Hope I get a new one with the "new" brick!
Great customer support!
Poor quality control!
Nintendo makes the 3DS, Horizon makes the B3D

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Nintendo makes the 3DS, Horizon makes the B3D

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Har... nice catch... totally went by me.
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Old Aug 07, 2012, 10:57 AM
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Nintendo makes the 3DS, Horizon makes the B3D

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Tony (me!) makes a B3SD
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Old Aug 07, 2012, 11:15 AM
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Thanks for all the great info on motors! I think I'll do the 2300/5030 for now.
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Old Aug 07, 2012, 11:27 AM
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Thanks for all the great info on motors! I think I'll do the 2300/5030 for now.
Wait... wouldn't that be the 2300/5043?
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Old Aug 07, 2012, 11:27 AM
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Thanks for all the great info on motors! I think I'll do the 2300/5030 for now.
That would be a very ineffective combo. I'd STRONGLY recommend the 5043 with that motor.

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Old Aug 07, 2012, 01:09 PM
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Wait... wouldn't that be the 2300/5043?
Sorry, I got confused. Thanks for the correction as I almost got the wrong prop. How is the stock prop on the 2300?
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Sorry, I got confused. Thanks for the correction as I almost got the wrong prop. How is the stock prop on the 2300?
As Kalmon says, not great. It really comes alive with the 5043. And these props are so cheap. Why not? Just balance them before you run them. They come way off balance.
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Sorry, I got confused. Thanks for the correction as I almost got the wrong prop. How is the stock prop on the 2300?
It might fly, Given a long enough runway.

It is OK at best with a 2300 and a stock prop. Less than 1:1 power to weight ratio. Seriously limited vertical.

For $1.50 each get 3-4 of the 5043s and balance them all. Props eventually get chewed up anyways.

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