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Old Nov 16, 2011, 04:38 AM
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Paradude, you haven't any idea of what regulation is until you come into the UK now that Europe has taken over!
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Old Nov 16, 2011, 12:40 PM
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That would be awesome to do it for real but as I live in Australia with anal retentive folk hell bent on regulating the colour of our farts my bet would be 100 times the cost of the paraglider in fee's and license. Not only that but by the time it all got past and approved my blood pressure at 85 would not allow me to travel higher than 2 feet....so rc ones will have to do LOL.

There is a guy in this forum somewhere that shows how to build the kite versions, started out with blue foam and now sells them but they seem to work well, very on par with the HK foil but they are better suited to weight shift
I have not seen that one , can you put up a link to it ?
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Old Nov 16, 2011, 03:03 PM
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I made one of these as my first paraglider but never got it flying right.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=710384
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Old Nov 16, 2011, 08:10 PM
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OH Ok LOL ! I thought some one made a parafoil wing out of fan fold . Like how'd they do that 8)
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Old Nov 16, 2011, 08:18 PM
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Paradude, you haven't any idea of what regulation is until you come into the UK now that Europe has taken over!
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Wow.. yeah, I'm kinda sure it's going to happen here too If people dont wise up and fly within the FAR 103 rules and use common sence .
But as with all rules they impose to keep us safe from ourselves and make money on the side , , the reality is there is just not enough manpower to enforce it .
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Old Nov 19, 2011, 04:17 PM
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Well Fellas:
My Para-foil kite arrived today and I set it into the wind to open it up. Looks nice will start on a gondola soon, Is weight going to be a big factor? Any and all comments are going to be useful.

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Old Nov 19, 2011, 08:18 PM
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Be good to see your progress Bill, a rough guide is 800g-1kg per meter so spread it out and measure it (don't go by what they advertise, the HK foil is actually 1.8mtrs as apposed to advertised 2.1). I think there is a formula to use based on meter squared by we're not all aeronautical engineers so close enough is good enough when it comes to havin fun LOL
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Old Nov 21, 2011, 06:03 PM
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Well this is what I have so far, and I thought if I flew the kite to get a feel for the way it handles it might help under stand flight characteristics. Well let me tell you it's not as easy as they show on the package.

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Old Nov 21, 2011, 09:07 PM
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Flying Power kites , AS power kites Is fun when you get the hang of it . Normally they are flown in the power zone or at about a 45 or less degree angle to the ground . How ever in PPG applications Its different , Its going to be flying directly over head . If your trying to fly it over head with Long lines ( like the ones that came with the kite ) This is going to be difficult because of the wind drag on the long lines will want to pull the kite back down in the power zone .
If you want to experment with over head kiting, like the wing will be over the trike , Shorten the lines to about 10 to 15 foot long max, and fly it in over 10 mph winds , which is about the speed of the trike at normal flying speed. You need to be in a good area where the wind is smooth and not being disturbed with trees and buildings causing rotor.
http://www.kiteboardingevolution.com/wind-window.html
Good Start on the trike !
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Old Nov 22, 2011, 04:06 AM
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G'day Bill
Looks like your sucker for punishment....BTW.... I am waiting at the post box for my one to arrive.............
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Old Nov 22, 2011, 08:35 AM
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She Flies !!!

I was finally able to get her to fly yesterday. I had 2 nice flights where she was flying in a stable manner & was able to climb & descend using the throttle. The flights ended only because I put her down due to closeness of obstacles (fence & car) - see lack of steering below ...

The 70mm AOA works well, as does the 48 oz. (1.36 Kg) AUW.

Sad to say, no video. My hat cam was pointed up at the Heavens (perhaps that's why she finallly flew ...).

The launch technique that works best for me is to face the rear (with my back to the wind or launch direction), set throttle to just above half, and lift the trike to just above my head, letting the foil fill up and come overhead. Then I just gently release, letting her fly out of my hand, turn around & fly.

I had been tossing it up across my body facing sideways, but realized I was trying too much to toss or throw it forward like you would with a plane. I think this was unnecessary and resulted in the trike swinging about with bad results.

The issue I had today was lack of steering (I know - such a minor issue .....). I have yet to do final adjustments on the brake lines & had too much slack in them. I did program more down throw for my second flight and had some steering, but then a car got too close & I had no confidence I could turn her away safely.

Question - how are you guys temporarily tying off your brake lines? I have just been using some loops and some tape to hold them. I didn't think if I actually tied them off that I would be able to loosen the knots of that thin line to readjust as needed. I would like to tie them off now, but I'm thinking I will still need to do some adjustments to complete dialing in the proper length.
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Old Nov 22, 2011, 09:52 AM
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Ya Chris: I got to stop following that Safelandings fellow around the Groups he cost me money every time he changes gears. Going to add the radio and see what happens today.

Regards Bill.
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Old Nov 22, 2011, 10:46 AM
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Tim,
Congratulations on getting yours into the air, just a bit of fine tuning and you will have it turning on a six pence

Bill,
Sorry!! but I think you may well be making me spend some money on a new kite like yours, I will be watching in anticipation Your Gonola looks good

I had a bit of an issue with mine last week 'playing after dark', cut through a set of the main lines on a bad launch.

RC Para Motor Night flying attempt ends in tears (1 min 59 sec)


How hard is it to restring? and what kind of strings are best?? or is it best to get a new kite like Bills?


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Old Nov 22, 2011, 11:57 AM
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Rich,I had similar problems with my Seabreeze but the "UFLY" guy used COLOURED strings so that it was easy to both untangle AND mend where necessary (that latter actually never happened)

Cheers Ted (P.S. you were VERY Brave/Crazy) to night fly!
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Tim,

How hard is it to restring? and what kind of strings are best?? or is it best to get a new kite like Bills?
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Re stringing With a no stretch braded fishing line like Fire wire or Spider line seems to work best . Make a drawing of the wing and all the line placements then measure each one , loging the info on your drawing . You only need to log one half the wing , the other side will be a carbon copy.
Make a peg board with small nails driven in at the points you located so each line set is identical to the other side . String your lines using the nails a pull points . but you dont need to pull hard , CA glue works well for forming easy loops by just folding the line back on itself and let it cure . Using tooth picks to hold it togather as it sets up . Real thin CA works best
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