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Old Oct 18, 2011, 10:07 PM
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The Left’s Dangerous Class Hatred

What you are seeing in 'occupy'...outright class hatred.

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Being on the left means that you divide the world between rich and poor much more than you divide it between good and evil. For the leftist, the existence of rich and poor — inequality — is what constitutes evil. More than tyranny, inequality disturbs the Left, including the non-Communist Left. That is why so many on the Left fell in love with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chávez, and, at other times, with every left-wing dictator.

Non-leftists see these men as thugs; much of the Left sees them as fighters for equality. Yes, leftist dictators extinguish freedom and steal land and businesses from the rich — but none of this disturbs most of the Left. Left-wing dictators are seen by the Left as kindred spirits in hating inequality.
The zero sum vision of economics and the strife and division it always leads to.
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Old Oct 18, 2011, 10:13 PM
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You know, if people would quit typing fear mongering stupidity, fools would quit believing it.
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Old Oct 18, 2011, 10:34 PM
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Inequality in tax, the poor pay a greater percentage of their income than the rich. Seems fair to you I see. Then again, you're rich, why should you care.

Inequality where it is not due, due to tax benefits only accessible thanks to wealth. And being wealthy does not mean greater efficiency.
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Old Oct 18, 2011, 10:46 PM
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What you are seeing in 'occupy'...outright class hatred.



The zero sum vision of economics and the strife and division it always leads to.
Many times, countries overthrew rulers with corrupt regimes that WE supported. The Commies only had to stroll in and say "See? The West is fueling your oppressors!"
This is why Yanqui go home got to be a popular expression. Of course, we had business dealings with the incumbent power structures...
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Old Oct 18, 2011, 11:03 PM
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You know, if people would quit typing fear mongering stupidity, fools would quit believing it.
Guess you don't listen to him on the radio either.
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Old Oct 18, 2011, 11:40 PM
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Asking the rich to pay a share of taxes that they did during Reagan's administration, is translated into class warfare by pundits. I guess the target audience is easily determined.

Then he goes on to condemn the protestors as "— a mixture of the bored, the nihilistic, the seekers of excitement, left-wing true believers, confused idealists, and those hoping to engage in violence —"

Yes, a little fear mongering tossed in. Not to mention actual class hatred.

And this gem, the usual lie, this time with extreme hyperbole: "But in America, where the way in which “poor” is defined renders most poor Americans materially equivalent to much of Europe’s middle class..."

Materially equivalent, some qualifier that.
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Old Oct 19, 2011, 01:21 AM
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Let the rants continue, I love the sight, sound & smell of fear.
What I really find amusing is they have been crowing about their "Culture War" for years & now that they may actually have to engage in it they read as more desperate every day.

No Peace / Cry Havoc & let slip the Dogs of War
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Old Oct 19, 2011, 01:25 AM
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— a mixture of the bored, the nihilistic, the seekers of excitement, left-wing true believers, confused idealists, and those hoping to engage in violence —"
Funny, thats what I see too. But I'm really not paying too much attention.
This protest has many groups and politicians on its side that I despise.
A Cloward /Piven scent that makes me leery.
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Old Oct 19, 2011, 02:33 AM
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They do this since the Left has no good idea's to build themselves up.
History has shown, tearing down only gives temporary satisfaction.
Afterward they are left living in a third world style shack, hungry, cold, and dominated.
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Old Oct 19, 2011, 04:39 AM
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Inequality in tax, the poor pay a greater percentage of their income than the rich. Seems fair to you I see. Then again, you're rich, why should you care.

Inequality where it is not due, due to tax benefits only accessible thanks to wealth. And being wealthy does not mean greater efficiency.
Don't let some facts get in the way, eh?

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/2...-their-bosses/
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Old Oct 19, 2011, 06:31 AM
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Since the left has blown its wad and now has nothing left since excessive overspending didn't work, class hatred is the only tool left in the Stalin/Lenin/Mao/Castro/Chavez play book. Obama is running home to mama so to speak.
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Old Oct 19, 2011, 06:34 AM
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The Rich have the power and money.
The poor have the numbers.
This is why the Rich do not want the Poor to be organised.
If that happened the rich would lose their power and that scares them, hence the OP and other lies and BS.
People are seeing through the lies, thats why protests against the bankers are spreading around the world, post propaganda against them all you like, try and highjack the Anger into Capitalist controled groups like the Tea party, but you are going down.

Sooner or later America will really get some Socialist things going on, not this Capitalist Lite crap from the Democrats you keep claiming is Socialism, but real Socialism and America will be a better country for it.
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Old Oct 19, 2011, 06:38 AM
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The Rich have the power and money.
The poor have the numbers.
This is why the Rich do not want the Poor to be organised.
If that happened the rich would lose their power and that scares them, hence the OP and other lies and BS.
People are seeing through the lies, thats why protests against the bankers are spreading around the world, post propaganda against them all you like, try and highjack the Anger into Capitalist controled groups like the Tea party, but you are going down.

Sooner or later America will really get some Socialist things going on, not this Capitalist Lite crap from the Democrats you keep claiming is Socialism, but real Socialism and America will be a better country for it.
It has worked so well in the European Union, the Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba, and now Venezuela......hasn't it?
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Old Oct 19, 2011, 06:51 AM
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People are hand fed perspective that is divisive and detrimental to our future sovereignty and freedom

Based in self interest and selfishness,, divisive in nature

Ya, "the issue" isn't sovereignty because if it were we would likely start to agree and come together as a nation to fix the real problems and would realize that international bankers are overthrowing us without a single shot fired

I don't care for mises for this reason. I can see their bias clearly.. They are not here to help

I was talking with a casual acquaintance yesterday and find out his tenant owed 90,000 on his house in 1996 and refi'd to 360,000 in 2007 so what is that this domitilo alvarado comes to America and gets 270,000 in free money over 11 years to spend as he wanted... to compete against America's children... The "acquaintance" who is not a friend rents a small illegal house to him in his back yard anyrate this acquaintance was repeating the typical republican gobbledygook about blacks bad hispanics good and how this particular hispanic has helped people and is hard working and "you have to admit the white people have gotten lazy"
whatever,, MAN!!!!!! WE MIGHT WORK A LITTLE EASIER TOO IF WE GOT 270,000$ FREE MONEY!!!
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Old Oct 19, 2011, 07:00 AM
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People are hand fed perspective that is divisive and detrimental to our future sovereignty and freedom

Based in self interest and selfishness,, divisive in nature

Ya, "the issue" isn't sovereignty because if it were we would likely start to agree and come together as a nation to fix the real problems and would realize that international bankers are overthrowing us without a single shot fired

I don't care for mises for this reason I can see they are out of touch with the real issues and are part of the problem

I was talking with a casual acquaintance yesterday and find out his tenant owed 90,000 on his house in 1996 and refi'd to 360,000 in 2007 so what is that this domitilo alvarado comes to America and gets 270,000 in free money over 11 years to spend as he wanted... to compete against America's children... The "acquaintance" who is not a friend rents a small illegal house to him in his back yard anyrate this acquaintance was repeating the typical republican gobbledygook about blacks bad hispanics good and how this particular hispanic has helped people and is hard working and "you have to admit that the white people have gotten lazy"
whatever,, MAN!!!!!! WE MIGHT WORK A LITTLE EASIER TOO IF WE GOT 270,000$ FREE MONEY!!!
Would someone kindly explain this post to me because I don't have a clue of what was said.
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