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Old Jun 15, 2012, 05:41 AM
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Just done some testing with full ducting with 58mm exhaust tube in the F-100.
Steve Neu and I been doing R&D lately. He got my TJ70 doing testing and I got his sample motor here doing testing to compare data.
So far the number look really good.
If everything is accurate from what I see.
IT show 10% more effecient than all testing we di with E-flite motor and Mega on the same RPM.
I'll wait for Steve result come in to compare with his testing on the bench with bellmount lip and 58mm exhaust tube.

Soon we had Neu/Tamjets version motor at 2000 watts will do the same as 2300 watts Mega and E-Flite BL32.
As right now information of motor and kv is hidden secret until we had productions ready.
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 06:28 AM
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Or also between the heatsink and motor, if that is all you have (eg for a plastic fan housing).
You can use computer thermal paste, there are some useful 'thickish' grey types. eg Arctic Silver etc.
Not the thinnish white cheap stuff.
My StuMax 90mm has white thermal paste, are you saying that it is a poor heat conductor. I might have to get with ExtremeRC on this.

Eric B.
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 10:11 AM
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My StuMax 90mm has white thermal paste, are you saying that it is a poor heat conductor. I might have to get with ExtremeRC on this.

Eric B.
I'm running a HET 700-60 at 3400 watts in my Stu 80mm....I think the paste is doing it's job just fine!
Plus the Stumax alloy center is way bigger than any heat sink! Lots of heat transfer area!
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 10:53 AM
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Hi Michael,
Thanks for that info.
I didnt think mark would use something that was inadequate.
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 12:16 PM
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The white stuff, typically, uses a ceramic compound for the heat-transfer mechanism. The silvery-looking stuff uses either real silver or aluminum. That's apparently about the only real difference.

Some interesting reading: http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 01:38 PM
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Pike,

Thanks for that, good reading.

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Old Jun 15, 2012, 01:55 PM
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I'm partial to Crest for my heatsink paste.......
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 02:19 PM
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Here is the skinny on my quick assessment of the CS10blade 70mm fan w/ STOCK motor from the Venom F-86. I quickly used a spare 50A ESC and on 4s4400mAh 45c (extremely tired nanotechs from last year) and for the initial run up, it seems to be holding. Not sure on the longevity of it all, but here are the numbers after about 30 seconds of run. I'm also not sure on if these are good numbers or if this Venom F-86 will be a dog. Your thoughts?

44 Amps
653.4 Watts
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 03:16 PM
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Here is the skinny on my quick assessment of the CS10blade 70mm fan w/ STOCK motor from the Venom F-86. I quickly used a spare 50A ESC and on 4s4400mAh 45c (extremely tired nanotechs from last year) and for the initial run up, it seems to be holding. Not sure on the longevity of it all, but here are the numbers after about 30 seconds of run. I'm also not sure on if these are good numbers or if this Venom F-86 will be a dog. Your thoughts?

44 Amps
653.4 Watts
Looks rather low for this motor. It should be 60ish amps and 900-1000watts.

Is this measurement taken in the airframe or is it wihout an inlet lip?

If it is on a test stand without an inlet lip then all is OK or your batteries are not up to it.

In the airframe watts/amps and thrust will go up.

Now whether the motor lasts long, that's another question.
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 03:56 PM
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Looks rather low for this motor. It should be 60ish amps and 900-1000watts.

Is this measurement taken in the airframe or is it wihout an inlet lip?

If it is on a test stand without an inlet lip then all is OK or your batteries are not up to it.

In the airframe watts/amps and thrust will go up.

Now whether the motor lasts long, that's another question.
On test stand w/out intake lip.
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 08:18 PM
Progress with the process...
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On test stand w/out intake lip.
Put the lip on and retry.
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 08:35 PM
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Retried with lip. Like I said. Lipos are old, puffed, and pieces of crap.

With the lip:

749.6 Watts
53.17 Amps
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 09:21 PM
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Here is a few videos of my HK fiberglass f16 w/ arc 28-58-1 in a wemo minifan, on a 6s. After I repair it and change the rx in it, I should have some longer and better ones for you.

HobbyKing F-16, w- Arc 28-58-1,70mm MiniFan Pro,6s Repainted,Red Tail and Retracts (2 min 25 sec)


HobbyKing F-16, w- Arc 28-58-1,70mm MiniFan Pro,6s Repainted,Red Tail and Retracts 2 (6 min 59 sec)
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Old Jun 15, 2012, 10:01 PM
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Sweet, what A-10 is this?
That A-10 is the LX models A-10.....I also have one. Available from www.toysonics.com (Los Angeles)
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Old Jun 16, 2012, 12:10 AM
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Retried with lip. Like I said. Lipos are old, puffed, and pieces of crap.

With the lip:

749.6 Watts
53.17 Amps
Oh well, at least the motor is not going to fry with these lipos...
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