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Old Dec 14, 2011, 01:40 PM
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Hi All.

Am looking for a bit of help please regarding the Minsoo`s navi board
I have been setting up my quad with the black board and navi board. All the setting up seems to have gone well etc. The only thing is when i power up again there is no flashing blue light waiting for the GPS..??

Plug in the power and wait for the GPS status before arming; the Blue LED will be flashing - please wait.... quotes, from Minsoo`s web site.

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Old Dec 15, 2011, 12:12 AM
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Hi All.

Am looking for a bit of help please regarding the Minsoo`s navi board
I have been setting up my quad with the black board and navi board. All the setting up seems to have gone well etc. The only thing is when i power up again there is no flashing blue light waiting for the GPS..??

Plug in the power and wait for the GPS status before arming; the Blue LED will be flashing - please wait.... quotes, from Minsoo`s web site.

Regards Charles
In this case, it isn't completed to initialize the magnetometer. please try again.
And download the navi firmware v1.3

Thanks
Minsoo
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Old Dec 15, 2011, 01:47 AM
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Hi Minsoo,

To make the new Ground Station, we need :

"Microsoft Visual basic Powerpacks VS Version 10.0.0.0"

This link

"If these components are already installed, you can launch the application now. Otherwise, click the button below to install the prerequisites and run the application."

Does not works.

????????
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Old Dec 15, 2011, 02:12 AM
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Hi Minsoo,

To make the new Ground Station, we need :

"Microsoft Visual basic Powerpacks VS Version 10.0.0.0"

This link

"If these components are already installed, you can launch the application now. Otherwise, click the button below to install the prerequisites and run the application."

Does not works.

????????
Sorry, works now!
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Old Dec 15, 2011, 02:21 AM
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Minsoo, how do we connect XBee to see what is happening in the air?
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Old Dec 15, 2011, 09:13 AM
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Wanted: Flycam naviboard

if anyone feels like disposing off their flycam naviboard, please contact me. Thank you.
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Old Dec 15, 2011, 01:29 PM
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I made the updates but I have not tried yet. I have doubts about the functioning of the waypoints. After having selected the route and saved.
How to start the tour?, Takes off, lands alone? please an example of its use.

thanks!
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Old Dec 15, 2011, 02:57 PM
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if anyone feels like disposing off their flycam naviboard, please contact me. Thank you.
Hello I send you a PM with ma contact email.

Jose
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Old Dec 15, 2011, 06:52 PM
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Dear All
I'm posting in the setting manual.
please refer to as follow.


The additional features are as follows.

1. When you plug in the power, initialize the GPS module.
Even if the battery discharge, it is possible to be using without the calibration of the magnetometer.

2. Support the extended ultra sonar sensor. (FlyCam Sonar, Max Sonar, Extended Barometer)
FlyCam Sonar and Max Sonar are similar in the performance.
Extended Barometer will sell with module.

3. If one of the barometer, accelerometer and magnetometer lose the function.
The copter is controlled by the blackboard.
If this occur, don't switch the copter off and can check the sensor status connecting the FlyCam Ground Station.
The naviboard need A/S.

4. Increased the time of the magnetometer initialization.
(rotate it 90 degrees until the sounder will beep and repeat three times.)

5. Improved more altitude hold by the barometer.
But altitude hold need to be careful by the inaccuracy of barometer.
When you are the coming home and waypoint, the low altitude that in below 15m doesn't recommend the altitude hold.

6. When the naviboard and blackboard is connected, the stick responding of the blackboard is quickly.
It need the firmware v2.5. if the stick responding is very quickly, can set the EXP in your Tx.
Don't adjust D/R,Travel Adjust, Endpoint and etc.

7. Improved more the GPS position hold.
The copter is responsive to in the wind.

8. When you have the comming home, add in a partial speed controll.
Decrease the status that it has not been able to return to home position.

9. Added the GPS waypoint in two ways.
It is able to register maximun 32 point and no limit the distance.
The ways of the registering are as follows.

10.Added the GPS follow me function.
This function change 9'th channel to the 3 position switch and work case of no register point.
It is able to run the postion hold, comming home
For using this fuction, it need one more naviboard and the communications equipment like Zigbee, bluetooth and etc.
We will post the connecting method in setting manual.

The way of the registering in PC
You can register the waypoint with mouse click and drag through google map in running FlyCam Ground Station v1.1.
If the copter goes into the radius of the check point, is regarded to be passing the check point.
If set the radius to 0m, set automatically the radius to 5 ~ 10m based on the status of the GPS.
"wait" after the copter goes into the radius, set wait time with seconds.
"heading" when the copter is heading for the check point, turn heading to check point or not.
If you check heading, is always heading for the check point.
In this case, you can turn heading by rudder stick but if the stick release, the heading change automatically for the check point.
To transfer from the register waypoint to the navi board, press " Write Waypoint".
To display a storage waypoint in the naviboard, press " Read Waypoint".
Futher instructions refer to link video.

FlyCam MultiCopter Waypoint (3 min 11 sec)


The way of the registering the check point in Tx
The way to register a waypoint. (be careful an ordering)
1.Change 9'th channel to the 2 position switch.
2. If you have the position hold( 6'th channel 2 position switch ), add the position hold in waypoint.
3. Change to free flight mode and if you have the position hold at the check point what you want, add the position hold in waypoint.
4. It is able to register maximun 32 point with this procedure.
Setted the radius to 0m, set automatically the radius to 5 ~ 10m based on the status of the GPS.
Setted wait to 0sec.
Turned heading to check point.

The way of running the waypoint flight in Tx
1. Free flying mode
2. Change 9'th channel to the 3 position switch.
3. Run the waypoint flight.

The way of stopping the waypoint flight in Tx
1. Free flying mode
2. Change 9'th channel to the 1 position switch.

The way of deleting the check point in Tx
( be careful an order, if not, the copter become the position hold in waypoint flight.)
1. Position hold
2. Change 9'th channel to the 3 position switch.
3. Deleted the storage waypoint.


A storage waypoint remains until the deleting or unplugging.
The waypoint flight is completed and run again the waypoint, start again from the beginning.

In the waypoint flight mode, if the position hold, become the hovering.
And change the free flight mode, the waypoint flight, which had been momentarily stopped, run again.

9'th channel should be the 3 position switch.

9'th channel used fixed heading, and turn heading to home.
This function is valid yet( be careful an ordering )
1. Run Coming home
2. Change 9'th channel to the 2 position switch.
( Run delete in reverse order )


It is able to run the postion hold, comming home and free flight during waypoint flight.

We recommend the waypoint flight the copter which is completed fully the position hold.
It need to practice through image traning for the register,delete,run in Tx.
Regarding GPS function ,a beep sound indicating or not. if sound, the magnetometer isn't being in good condition.
In this case, repeat initializing the compass.

There is a comparative table that is the GPS gain for setting in the naviboard firmware v1.3 for reference.
The GPS gain have to be a different setting based on length, motor, propeller, battery, weight and etc.
The main cause among them is the length of frame and the size of the propeller.
Please refer to as shown below table.
Set the GPS Roll, Pitch gain by the standards of the distance of the edge of the propeller and the center of the copter.
In case of the asymmetric structures, the roll axis and pitch axis is different distance.
Can set the gain with the measurement of the each distance.



Thanks
Minsoo

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Old Dec 15, 2011, 09:26 PM
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Dear All
regarding servo using , fixed it again.
please download the firmware v1.3 again.

Thanks
Minsoo
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Old Dec 16, 2011, 02:09 AM
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Thanks Mr Minsoo !!
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Old Dec 16, 2011, 02:30 AM
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Congratulation again Minsoo!
You are the FIRST that give some concretes data of a quad/hexa regarding the PID setting.

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Old Dec 16, 2011, 02:47 AM
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Wow, this thing is getting realy great!

As i said before we must give Minsoo and his technology time to grow.
And see whats going on with the FlyCam stuff!
Now i would be realy happy recieving back my fixed Boards.

Thanks Mr. Minsoo
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Old Dec 16, 2011, 03:23 AM
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Who is going to be first?.....
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Old Dec 16, 2011, 07:46 AM
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software update

Mr Minsoo, I have loaded new software and now i get beep, beep continuously until I arm is this normal? I also now have trouble with magnetometer when running. i can get a solid red with the longer calibration procedure, but when i start motors red goes blink, blink, continuously until I stop the motors. Is this vibration of the frame if so do we need special mounts for the new software?
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