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Old Oct 03, 2011, 01:18 AM
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I can prob translate if needed
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Old Oct 03, 2011, 01:28 AM
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I'm surprised he manages to sell a non-working board with CopterControl-amount of components on it + GPS for 4x the price of coptercontrol. And it STILL needs a $120 "black kk-board". So basically a $500 investment for $50 worth of parts, which don't work
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Old Oct 03, 2011, 02:01 AM
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The value of Naviboards just went down the toilet I think.
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Old Oct 03, 2011, 03:15 AM
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Very nice video there!

However, let's just make thing clear, I beleive you are experiencing GPS drift, that might be gain setting.

What you are getting (Drift) and what we are getting is 2 complete different things. When I switch on PH, it actually flies into a direction, with quite some speed, some guys have crashed like this. This used to be north everythime, but now it goes South.

So what are you, warthox and Minsoo doind differantly??

I've got mine mounted an my Quad now, now I can't get the red led to stop flashing when under throttle, it's raised allmost 10cm allready!!
Ok so I'm ok if I drift slowly, thanks for the heads up on that I now have some confidence for my next outing. I also had the Quad fly off at speed when I switched GPS but am not sure whether it was position hold or in return home so I need to test that again.

Like you when I fired my board up for the first time I waited for a long time for the RED LED to go solid but it never did even after several attempts at calibrating compass as the video shows. I then came across the video of Mr Minsoo removing the sounder “buzzer” that’s very close to the compass; I removed main and soldered it to a lead and straight away I got a solid RED LED. I’ve also got a 22SWG aluminium “litho plate” as a shield between the distribution board and the underside of the Black board.

I’ve been powering up my boards with just one of the ESC the rest have been disabled and only the Ground and Signal are connected. “Kirchhoff law of currents”, I’ve got ferrite rings on all my wires as a norm really despite the fact that I’m not using the positive lead now.

I have now fitted a BEC as recommended by Mr Minsoo and from past experience I’ve gone for a Liner and not a switching one. The switching BEC has too much noise for these sensitive electronics I learnt that from my FPV gear. I will assume that the need for a separate power supply to the boards eliminates the fluctuation in the supply that could lead to a drop in certain areas of the electronics? For navigation you really don’t need that it’s like switching on and off? I believe


My black board is the latest one and it is supposed to be ok with the buzzer I think?

I'm able to get a GPS lock in the house!

From the customer service I’ve had from Mr Minsoo I have full confidence that he will resolve this matter, we just need to be patient and share what we find works’.

Regards.
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Old Oct 03, 2011, 06:04 AM
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I don't want to appear negative, but I think this is the only market where you buy full price to be a tester of a product that is sold to be functional but it isn't!
Hope this will not transfer to cars, hi-fi sets, microwave oven etc...
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Well I had a MK and a Shrediquette, and not one of them worked out of the box...

Just the nature of the beast,

@Timecop, we all know you're stuff is the best and cheapest and easiest, give it a rest. Don't spoil you're good rep.

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Old Oct 03, 2011, 12:54 PM
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Hello squad friends
A wonder,, Someone who can show you how to connect the bec on a fly cam naviboard,, do not understand how to connect the
I sent you à PM
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Don't want to share ? ;-)

In fact, the connection of the UBEC, IMHO, should be not on the naviboard but on the black or blue board after removing all the red wire of all the ESC. But, in case that can help, do you connect the BEC on motor 1, 2, 3, free motor ?

I also tried to leave one ESC BEC connected to the black board and to connect a UBEC directly on my receiver (in this configuration, only signal wire came from my naviboard into the receiver)... same result, my quadcopter is still running away after I switch the GPS switch on hold or return to home...
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Old Oct 03, 2011, 04:03 PM
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I can prob translate if needed
I will be more than appreciated ;-) Maybe we are missing some beep beep setting translation !
Thanks in advance !
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Old Oct 03, 2011, 04:21 PM
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@Timecop, we all know you're stuff is the best and cheapest and easiest, give it a rest. Don't spoil you're good rep.

Dion
I think you got the wrong person.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Old Oct 03, 2011, 04:32 PM
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what do you need translated? I will take care of it tonight if you link it.
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Old Oct 03, 2011, 08:23 PM
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what do you need translated? I will take care of it tonight if you link it.
Thank you, I'm working on it. I'm sure you will help a lot!
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Old Oct 03, 2011, 08:37 PM
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Ok so I'm ok if I drift slowly, thanks for the heads up on that I now have some confidence for my next outing. I also had the Quad fly off at speed when I switched GPS but am not sure whether it was position hold or in return home so I need to test that again.

Like you when I fired my board up for the first time I waited for a long time for the RED LED to go solid but it never did even after several attempts at calibrating compass as the video shows. I then came across the video of Mr Minsoo removing the sounder “buzzer” that’s very close to the compass; I removed main and soldered it to a lead and straight away I got a solid RED LED. I’ve also got a 22SWG aluminium “litho plate” as a shield between the distribution board and the underside of the Black board.

I’ve been powering up my boards with just one of the ESC the rest have been disabled and only the Ground and Signal are connected. “Kirchhoff law of currents”, I’ve got ferrite rings on all my wires as a norm really despite the fact that I’m not using the positive lead now.

I have now fitted a BEC as recommended by Mr Minsoo and from past experience I’ve gone for a Liner and not a switching one. The switching BEC has too much noise for these sensitive electronics I learnt that from my FPV gear. I will assume that the need for a separate power supply to the boards eliminates the fluctuation in the supply that could lead to a drop in certain areas of the electronics? For navigation you really don’t need that it’s like switching on and off? I believe


My black board is the latest one and it is supposed to be ok with the buzzer I think?

I'm able to get a GPS lock in the house!

From the customer service I’ve had from Mr Minsoo I have full confidence that he will resolve this matter, we just need to be patient and share what we find works’.

Regards.

Yes, you're right. I've done all what was possible to eliminate interference. Including buzzer relocation, only signal lead from esc, no interference bec, rings, plate with few layers of foil and etc. I'm not having any problem with gps lock or red light to be solid.

But I still can't get quad to hold it's position, it keeps flying towards the same direction.

I would appreciate mr Minsoo to reply in this forum and tell us that he is working on this problem. Not just try to do this or that... Make sure that red light is on... It doesn't help! I know I've done my best and it's not interference, it's Navi board isn't working.


Plus in my mind, the hole idea of gps hold nod rth is opportunity to use FPV gear, and looks like Navi is not going to work properly cause of Rf noise.
To me, it's feels like I wasted my money and lot of time.
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Old Oct 03, 2011, 10:23 PM
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would this work?

http://translate.google.com/#auto|ko|
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Old Oct 03, 2011, 10:35 PM
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google does ok job. if you read between the line
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