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Old Dec 13, 2012, 07:43 PM
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ahah lol,
Ok update wifey allowed me to unbox the plane so that I could check for damage and then rebox for Santa
Ok first the good news , the box was packed by Ramond at RC Castel to protect it from an earth quake !!! really great .
The unboxing revealed the following .
1)very cool tail , rudder area , very scale with non abtrusive details
2)fuse was in perfact condition , one cowl flap needs some reglueing but its nothing , the fuse is flawless as far as no dings and good paint with little honey combs visable with the exception of some in the black paint area .
3) the pilot is cool almost full bodied , I will be adding more detail to the cockpit but I must in stock form its very very nice , good attempt by FMS to add some details .
4)the wings are heavy , and retracts were factory retracted so I did not want to play with them until xmas .
5) RC Castle tends to include gifts and he did not disappoint with an extra prop !!!
ok , some of the bad news but nothing I cant fix , after all I am supposed to be a modeler .
1)the wing servos don't have there arms on them , as a result in shipping they hit each other and leave nice dime and quarter size indentations into the wing on the top wing !!! Ya I was pissed as this is clearly FMS fault and not RC Castle . I will need to fill and paint the wings in that area , so work will be needed . Unfortunately its on both side so , its not a deal breaker but its clearly damage that I need to fix . It will in no way impact its airworthiness.

Ok, now the part that pisses me off lol , I ordered an extra set of retracts from RC Castle from FMS for this particular corsair , I want to try them in my red box Top Flight P40 build .
I was very impressed with the medal retract unit but the struct are cheap plastic and one is glued so tight that the leg is non functional as far as compression .
I will be more then glad to offer that back to RC Castle because its non useable and I hope the ones in the plane are functional .

Now overall comparison to my $400 79" P40 from LX VS the 67" FMS Corsair .
As far as factory packing LX wins , there is no way the LX P40 gets damaged unless UPS sits on the box lol .
Retracts , FMS wins on the medal gear look and strength, LX wins on the medal gear legs vs the plastic ones used by FMS . In reality the two companies need to meet like Chocolate and PeanutButter , LX Provide the struts and FMS provide the retract unit !!!

Decals , LX totally kicks butt , they appear painted on , seamless , look incredible , FMS has the look of a decal , they dont sit in the groves , somewhat off in scale , and dont fit into panel lines .

Overall look of the EPO , both companies win !!
Electric Parts ---I have to say on appearance FMS looks better and the ESC is more powerful out of the box vs LX . Also FMS stock has a "deans like" connector .
Power to weight ratio FMS wins in stock form vs LX .
Included Pilot -FMS wins hands down .
Wheels -FMS is a real rubber LX is a light weight foam , while LX is ok and much larger so they did not want to tax the retracts , the FMS wheels seem more appropriate to the size of the model .
Servos --while not tested yet in the FMS , its nice to see larger servos vs 9 gram medal used in the LX 79" Giant !
As far as completeness and ease of assembly , I really modded my LX P40 , but from the looks of it the FMS would appear to go together much easier based on the motor being installed .
Overall both good planes , big innovations in rc . Why the comparison ? well I am fortunate enough to have both planes and they are both in the same range as far as cost so I wanted to see how these two competitors are evolving .
Tons of pics will be posted tomorrow , I don't have my laptop home and the wonderful I-Pad is a joke at multiple picture posting
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 07:53 PM
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Thanks LDM
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 09:06 PM
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Ldm, you'll love it! Flies great out of the box.
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 10:05 PM
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thanks guys , cant wait to fly it !!
You know all the critsium you can take when showing up with a foamey lol, this week I have been working on some old kits I have that are fiberglass fuselages , they can not hold a candle to the feel and strength of this epo !
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 04:36 AM
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By the way , one last comment on the Battery charging , when I speak of urban legend , I was not referring to Brandon's excellent comments on battery break in , I was referring to the need to buy "brand names" at all time in this hobby . Many of the brand names as we know are created by the very distributor that is importing to create there name on QC and exclusivity on any one product segment .
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 04:43 AM
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By the way , one last comment on the Battery charging , when I speak of urban legend , I was not referring to Brandon's excellent comments on battery break in , I was referring to the need to buy "brand names" at all time in this hobby . Many of the brand names as we know are created by the very distributor that is importing to create there name on QC and exclusivity on any one product segment .
No problem My friend, I understood what you meant and agree

EG. I to have many of the earlier Magnum Nitro motors and I happen to know from the inside, that they were designed by an Engineer that used to work for O.S. and left the company to create them...that was quite a few years ago...like about 12 or so...lol. Good motors

As for the "Legend" part.....LOL...I don't mind being "Legendary"
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 08:38 AM
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Red, I only charge at 1c on choice , the batterys can easily handle it .
As far as the break in menthioned , I never did that ...why ? total ignorance on my part , simply never knew and three years later my batterys are great , and 1/2 of the cost what was drilled in my head as #1 .
When I was in fuel planes , you were drilled on OS Max , I tried a Magnum engine at 1/3 the cost and was pleasantly surprised , so in some areas you can really save if your willing to simply try .
Same with the orange Spectrum receivers , I have used them in 70" Plus glow planes with zero problems , so I am either one lucky son of B , or there is a ton of fear and urban legend that exist in RC !!!
I agree Ldm about the urban legends and you being lucky. Anyone who gets to play with cool rc airpalnes is lucky. : )
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 09:14 AM
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Ok , pics attached , you can see the extra gear leg , its the one that does not compress .
The damage on the wing is a result of the servo sproket hitting the wing with friction in shipping
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 09:22 AM
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Note , already spoke to Raymond from RC Castle , he is replacing the one gear leg immeditly , it was an extra set , not the ones installed in the plane .
As far as the wings I told him I would fix the dents , his packing was flawless , the damage was not a result on his packing
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 09:30 AM
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Aren't you glad you didn't order from BH it would take months and alot of work on your part to get the LG replaced. Of course I did buy from BH but am unable to look at mine until Christmas.
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 10:15 AM
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Ldm,
When you showed the dent in the wing from the sprocket, it looked familiar. I went and checked my own, and yep, mine has it too! I remember being miffed when I saw it, but I've gotten over it since then I was planning on repainting anyways, so no biggie!
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 10:48 AM
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Aren't you glad you didn't order from BH it would take months and alot of work on your part to get the LG replaced. Of course I did buy from BH but am unable to look at mine until Christmas.
You got that right!
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 12:19 PM
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yes all great points --Raymond has been great !!!
He was elated when I said , no worries on the wings , I will fix them myself . Considering I will do some cockpit mods , I will need gray paint , so no biggie !.
Its an interesting design on the medal housing for the retracts , they looked stout , time will tell about the gear legs, its like come on FMS , stop being a "one off" this plane is sweet and you know the supply chain in China is open to copying , all they need to do is attend one trade show and "wala , they see the LX struts and they copy them lol !!!
I will be in Hong Kong mid January , my stop in to see Phillip and reach out to Raymond .
Will be buying many copy watches lol , for all my friend who are very impressed with fake bling" haha .
On another note , i had this posted in another thread but if you have a need to copy or make parts for any part of your planes, hatches ect a great tool I used in my wood kit building days is a countour guage , if you dont have one you can make one , they are great tools !!!
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 12:25 PM
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Mine had the same dents in the wing. Annoying and I told FMS about it and they said they would be updating the way those parts are protected/packaged.
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 12:28 PM
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A question for Brandon Moon, with apologies if the answer has previously been given:

How would you compare the 1600 mm LX/BH Corsair to the 1700 mm FMS Corsair. I believe you have both and I have watched your wonderful video of the the LX Corsair (what was the music you used? I loved it!).

I am in a mood to get a Corsair early next year after I finish building some of the kits that are stacked up in my basement. LOL.

Thanks,

Jackson
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