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Old Sep 07, 2011, 09:30 PM
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Walkera UFO or Quadpod ?

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I made it to the correct forum !

I'm a total newbie, but have figured out what i think I want!

A smooth RC Quadpod for filming that doesnt cost the earth.

The Walkera UFO 8 is the cheapest.. I think, but its a bit too light in the wind?

Therefore, would I be better off shelling out a bit more on either a Walkera UFO 4, or a Quadpod (the Quadpod doesnt come with any battery or controller, but it looks pretty solid..)

Walkera seems nearly impossible to find in the uk.

Can somone tell me if the walkera UFO 4 is as sturdy as the Quadpod?

Or, just a place in the UK where I can buy a Walkera UFO?
Otherwise I guess it'll have to be the (possibly better anyway) Quadpod.. When / If I can afford it.

any clues would be a great help, Thanks
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Old Sep 07, 2011, 10:39 PM
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The #4 is def not as durable as the Quadpod. The #4 is a small step above a toy and a QP is real hobby grade. Also the #4 is like 5 year old tech /brushed motors. Night and day diff. I have owned both but only have the QP now if that tells you anything. A few of my QP vids->

SnelFlight QuadPod Quad Copter From The Makers of the JumpJet (1 min 40 sec)


SnelFlight QuadPod Quad From The Makers Of The JumpJet (2 min 30 sec)
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Old Sep 07, 2011, 10:58 PM
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quadpod hands down.

You're talking toy quality vs hobby grade IMO
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Old Sep 07, 2011, 11:21 PM
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nice vids, thanks

hmm
I'm torn between 'toy' & 'hobby' then..
as one is more expensive than the other..

I'f I cant afford the Quadpod, but still fancy flying somethign outside above the treetops, and filming it, can it be done with the cheap cheapy ones?
Or am I asking to much?
I've seen a few videos telling me it can be done.

But either way,, I cant find any Uk dealer who sells UFO models

I did however find this.
It may be the way to go for a start..
see how much I take to it, then maybe save for a bigger better model later.

http://www.hobbydirect.co.uk/rtf-qua...ners-435-p.asp

Any ideas if this little one would cope flying outdoors?

Thanks
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Old Sep 08, 2011, 02:41 AM
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I wouldn't bother that for outside... its much too light. Its only 75g itself so what camera would you be looking to lift?

I would recommend building one yourself. Its easier than you may think and probably cheaper than you might think too... check out hobbykings motors/escs/tx-rx/lipos.

Building one makes you learn about it so when you crash you know exactly how to fix it. And you will crash when you first start to fly

Take a look at :

Center plates - has a power distribution built in 14euro:

http://www.flyduino.com/product_info...r-2er-set.html

Buy some cheap square aluminium tubing from your local b&q for you arms to attach to these plates.

Pro mini shield - stick a pro mini in to run free multiwii nav software 7.50euro:

http://www.flyduino.com/product_info...att-black.html

Pro mini 5v to run the Multiwii software on 12.60:

http://proto-pic.co.uk/arduino-pro-mini-328-5v-16mhz/

5v FTDI breakout to connect your pro mini to the computer 10.79:

http://proto-pic.co.uk/ftdi-basic-breakout-5v/

Original Wii motion plus gyro sensors 8:

http://uk.webuy.com/product.php?sku=SWIIWIIEM01

2.4ghz 6 channel transmitter with receiver - $22.99! :

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...de%5F2%5F.html

Then you just need 4xmotors and 4xescs (less than $10 each from hobbyking) and a lipo. Which ones you want will depend on how much you want to lift. My advice is to find a quad on here you like the look of and copy their motors/escs

Any problems assembling it all together then look in these forums... the question isn't answered? then just ask!

Ben.
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Old Sep 08, 2011, 07:08 AM
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I wouldn't bother that for outside... its much too light. Its only 75g itself so what camera would you be looking to lift?

I would recommend building one yourself. Its easier than you may think and probably cheaper than you might think too... check out hobbykings motors/escs/tx-rx/lipos.

Building one makes you learn about it so when you crash you know exactly how to fix it. And you will crash when you first start to fly

Take a look at :

Center plates - has a power distribution built in 14euro:

http://www.flyduino.com/product_info...r-2er-set.html

Buy some cheap square aluminium tubing from your local b&q for you arms to attach to these plates.

Pro mini shield - stick a pro mini in to run free multiwii nav software 7.50euro:

http://www.flyduino.com/product_info...att-black.html

Pro mini 5v to run the Multiwii software on 12.60:

http://proto-pic.co.uk/arduino-pro-mini-328-5v-16mhz/

5v FTDI breakout to connect your pro mini to the computer 10.79:

http://proto-pic.co.uk/ftdi-basic-breakout-5v/

Original Wii motion plus gyro sensors 8:

http://uk.webuy.com/product.php?sku=SWIIWIIEM01

2.4ghz 6 channel transmitter with receiver - $22.99! :

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...de%5F2%5F.html

Then you just need 4xmotors and 4xescs (less than $10 each from hobbyking) and a lipo. Which ones you want will depend on how much you want to lift. My advice is to find a quad on here you like the look of and copy their motors/escs

Any problems assembling it all together then look in these forums... the question isn't answered? then just ask!

Ben.
Thanks very much for puttign that list together...

But I wasnt looking to build one.

It feels liek ive been thrown in the deep end.
Looks cool if u can do it.
I doub't I can.

If I bought everything on your list, Id have all I needed?

I forsee many problems when trying to actually builf it tho.
Probably needs soldering, I wouldnt know what size arms to get from b&q, etc etc etc..
I really have zero clue.

It just looks to daunting, specially as im not even sure lf i want it as a hobby to 'learn' or just something to muk about with somtimes.

I couldnt even cope with airfix as a kid.


Thanks very much for the tips tho, i'll certainly look over it all, but I don't think I'd be able to locate, mod, and build all that stuff.
Its like expecting a monkey to appreciate shakespeare.
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Old Sep 08, 2011, 07:09 AM
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do what Ben said
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Old Sep 08, 2011, 07:19 AM
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do what Ben said
No.......... He said he was new and looking for a starter quad and you what him to build a board. Not every one want to Solder up their own boards.

the Quad pod would be a better choice of the two.
here is another option.
http://www.kkmulticopter.kr/index.ht..._full&id_no=49
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Old Sep 08, 2011, 07:28 AM
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do what Ben said
Its to daunting & I'm not sure i wanted to go that in depth route either, sorry
lol

I'd need a total step by step guide - and i cant get a total step by step guide until I know what i want.
And i dont know what i want until i read guides and cpmpare put together the features I want from them all. and see how much it would all cost for a machine with suitable capabilites.

this is turning into brain surgery when i just wanted a bit of fun...
I guess i expected to much.


Unless u want to build me one for a small fee
sorry, lol
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this is turning into brain surgery when i just wanted a bit of fun...
I guess i expected to much.


Unless u want to build me one for a small fee
sorry, lol
Hello again! lol

Think you really want a "RTF" (ready to fly), already built Quad, that you can just set down and fly right away.
Yes, the "home build" Quads will be CHEAPER (say 100 ALL in for all components and a few Frame parts + time fabricating the frame + setting up the electronics), but you do have to know the basics about electronics and SOME R/C background.

Wasn't someone here selling Tricopter ready-built Kits some time ago - The Mongrel?

Perhaps watch EBay (UK) for people selling Quads, for a cheaper one (than buying new)?
Or as per the OTHER thread, something like the below WILL get you into the air very nicely and you can confidently attach a good range of CAMs to it - BUT at a bit more of a cost (to buy)...

http://www.buzzflyer.co.uk/QuadCopte...er/p-142-1595/

or

http://www.buzzflyer.co.uk/Sub-Micro...UFO/p-97-1741/

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Here's a few tutorial videos about how to make a quad from scratch. Worth a watch even if you go down the RTF route to help to understand how they work/are built:

http://www.hoverflytech.com/video-tutorials.html

The quadpod seems good and will probably let you lift one of these keychain cameras. I have a #3 and the video quality is actually kinda good:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-3-Car-...6#ht_921wt_905

Ben.
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Old Sep 08, 2011, 08:31 AM
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yea, It does seem just to much to build my own circuit board, make my own body, get all teh balance right..
madness.

Shame, because itd save money.

And I cant afford a good ready made one.

And the small cheap ones are apparently rubbish outside.

I see even that micro buzzflyer is 100, and as far as i can see, its no bigger than the model i saw here:
http://www.hobbydirect.co.uk/rtf-qua...ners-435-p.asp
half the price and with controllers ect included.
But apparently rubbish outdoors.

So im basically stuck lol
it seems there is nothign out there for me.

i can either spend way over my budget, and get a 'half decent' outdoor quad like the quadpod

or spend a bit less over my budget and try to build my own.. but with ZERO prior knowledge of circuitry, soldering, balancing, tools, flying, etc.

If I coudl do it, I'd build my own, So it can take more wight, and a better camera..
but how can it? I cant even build airfix lol.

I guess I wont waste anymore of your time.
I'm starting to think there is nothing out suitable for me.

Maybe i shoudl just get the:
http://www.hobbydirect.co.uk/rtf-qua...ners-435-p.asp

It'll probably cope with keychain camera? and manage to go up to rooftop level or maybe a bit more on a non windy day?
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Here's a few tutorial videos about how to make a quad from scratch. Worth a watch even if you go down the RTF route to help to understand how they work/are built:

http://www.hoverflytech.com/video-tutorials.html

The quadpod seems good and will probably let you lift one of these keychain cameras. I have a #3 and the video quality is actually kinda good:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-3-Car-...6#ht_921wt_905

Ben.
Thanks ben,
But i dont think i can do it.
Ive never soldered in my life for a start.
I have hardly any tools
And i reckon i'd run into a whole heap of trouble, and probably ruin half the equipment anyway.

As for the camera, good news there, I allready ordered the HD keychain..
have nothign to fly it with tho, lol
I wish i knew a guy who can help me build one.
I'm not gonna try it on my own.. it'll end in tears.

Nevermind.. thanks for the help all.
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Old Sep 08, 2011, 08:47 AM
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It's a shame you don't feel up to it as it's actually quick fun

But you might want to get that 50 one just to see if you like flying them around indoors etc. I really don't think you'll get a camera on it though. Maybe if you took off the housing.

Also that one is controlled via infra-red so I'm not sure it'll even work outdoors? Although I could be completely wrong about that?

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Try and contact "The Mongrel" (thats his RCGroups Name), he's a member on here. He was custom building and selling Tricopters, fully tested prior to dispatch.

He has a BIG Thread here somewhere, with videos demonstrating his "products". You'd be very impressed.

Worth looking into, as I had a break from here for a while (due to other commitments), not sure if he still makes them or still visits here.

EDIT: Found his Site (I should get rep points for this! lol):
http://www.mongrelgear.com.au/

So which part of the UK are you at?
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