Espritmodel.com Telemetry Radio
Reply
Thread Tools
Old Aug 27, 2011, 03:03 PM
Registered User
Bob SF's Avatar
USA, CA, San Francisco
Joined Aug 2003
577 Posts
Discussion
Rebuild of Late 1920's Electric Launch

Hi Everyone,

Here is a quick picture of my latest project. This belongs to a friend of mine and we are going to make it run again (with a little sinning....it will have RC gear hidden inside). The story on the boat is that it belonged to my friend's father (who built the boat when he was in high school....which should bring the boat to around 1928). The boat was originally built as an electric powered model and does not appear to have any rot (nice change). Anyone out there in RC Groups seen anything like it before?

The model is 36 inches long and 8 inches wide. It was carved and hollowed out to what you see here. The plan is to to a basic rebuild that captures the essence of the original intent of the builder....but with a little bling. Since this is a rebuild for the family, we don't really care about harming its value by rebuilding it. The important thing for the family is that it pretty to look at and she runs again.

So far, the plan is to redo the model in its original color scheme (white hull, green bottom, varnished deck), add a few bits of trim wood (rubrails), install a new stuffing box, make a new rudder, power it with a 12 volt Dumas motor, install a new prop and shaft, hide the rudder servo and all linkages below deck (leaving the rudder arm and rudder sequencing device on deck), and go with a modern 2.4 receiver so that no antennae shows. The guiding principal is to keep as much stuff as the Dad originally built and build a Sunday afternoon cruiser. I'll post pictures and text as the rebuild comes along...

Bob SF
Bob SF is offline Find More Posts by Bob SF
Reply With Quote
Sign up now
to remove ads between posts
Old Aug 27, 2011, 07:41 PM
Veni, Vidi, Feci
patmat2350's Avatar
Motor City
Joined Dec 2004
12,270 Posts
Any hint if it was a kit? There was no shortage of plans for model boats in boys' mags and Pop Mechanics, for example... the fittings may have been sourced separately- companies like Boucher were selling fittings way back when.
patmat2350 is offline Find More Posts by patmat2350
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 27, 2011, 08:16 PM
Registered User
United States, ID, Rexburg
Joined Sep 2008
6,430 Posts
definitely an interesting model, the raised focs'le fascinates me. Looking at the pics I would say that you may have to replicate a couple of more cleats. The last pic with the motor (and shaft?) shows that it definitely won't take a lot of motor to get her moving at her former speed. The shaft (if that is what it is?) looks very small, and I doubt you will be able to find a prop for it. Looks like a fun project.
Foo
fooman2008 is offline Find More Posts by fooman2008
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 27, 2011, 09:27 PM
Veni, Vidi, Feci
patmat2350's Avatar
Motor City
Joined Dec 2004
12,270 Posts
The form was common in the 20's - 30's, known as "raised deck". You can get some of Atkin's plans for similar models at, for example: http://www.atkinboatplans.com/Cruisers/Seal.html

patmat2350 is offline Find More Posts by patmat2350
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 27, 2011, 10:01 PM
Grumpa Tom
Kmot's Avatar
United States, CA, Los Angeles
Joined Sep 2003
22,805 Posts
I dig that motor! Any brand name on it?
Kmot is offline Find More Posts by Kmot
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 27, 2011, 11:01 PM
Registered User
Bob SF's Avatar
USA, CA, San Francisco
Joined Aug 2003
577 Posts
Hi Kmot,

The motor is a K&D No. 35. It has what looks like a forward and reverse switch on the back. I haven't tried to run it. The wiring looks a little suspect and its not my motor, so I'm probably not going to even try to run the motor.

Hi Pat,

I don't think that this is a kit. I'd bet that it was built from plans. The quality of the build is really good. Thanks for the link to the Atkins plans.

Did three and a half hours of power sanding on the hull today. Looking good. Ordered the shaft, prop, motor, and a servo. I'll have to make the stuffing box since it is on the long side (around 14 inches). If any of you are wondering, the novelty of sanding has worn off {grin}.

Bob SF
Bob SF is offline Find More Posts by Bob SF
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 27, 2011, 11:44 PM
Registered User
Predreadnut's Avatar
Joined Jul 2007
2,723 Posts
Kinda looks like someones freelance version of a 1920's Blanchard.
Predreadnut is offline Find More Posts by Predreadnut
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 27, 2011, 11:52 PM
Registered User
Bob SF's Avatar
USA, CA, San Francisco
Joined Aug 2003
577 Posts
Now that's a pretty boat!!! Thanks for the picture...
Bob SF
Bob SF is offline Find More Posts by Bob SF
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 28, 2011, 12:31 AM
Spreckels Lake, GGP, SF, CA
craig_c's Avatar
USA, CA, San Francisco
Joined Apr 2007
3,631 Posts
This thread added to WOODIES: Wooden Pleasure Craft Build Logs listing.

Path: RCGroups -> Boats -> Scale Boats ->"WOODIES..."


Hey Bob!

That's a scratch/woodshop build from a shop textbook, almost certainly the Cavileer, Model Boat Building for Boys...

The cabin has been simplified, but everything else, right down to the shape of the cabin windows, placement of the port holes and choice of the K&D powerplant is straight out of the drawings in the book for the 36" cruiser.

Monetary value not with standing, I'd recommend changing as little as possible to preserve her intrinsic look and feel. Keep her as period as you can. Check the motor, if it's ok, I'd use it. Remember, some of the fittings and most of parts for this boat would have been fabricated by the student.

One note, be careful of the paint dust. Cavileer recommended (and the schools used) lead paints for the hulls.

There is BTW, a copy of the Cavileer book in pretty nice condition over on eBay right now, if you want it let me know and I won't bid against you.
craig_c is offline Find More Posts by craig_c
RCG Plus Member
Last edited by craig_c; Oct 09, 2011 at 09:34 PM.
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 28, 2011, 02:07 AM
Registered User
United States, ID, Rexburg
Joined Sep 2008
6,430 Posts
Bob, here is an idea, just to preserve the looks of the old setup, scrap out the old motor casing (it looks pretty good size), and find a modern motor to fit.....but like I said that is just an idea.

I was looking at the pic of your sanding efforts (better u than me), is the cabin wider fore than aft? or is that just the angle of the pic?
Foo
fooman2008 is offline Find More Posts by fooman2008
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 28, 2011, 10:23 AM
Grumpa Tom
Kmot's Avatar
United States, CA, Los Angeles
Joined Sep 2003
22,805 Posts
I searched high and low last night for information on the K&D motor and turned up zip!
Kmot is offline Find More Posts by Kmot
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 28, 2011, 10:30 AM
Registered User
Monterey Bay California
Joined Feb 2004
13,689 Posts
Neat!
Aerominded is offline Find More Posts by Aerominded
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 28, 2011, 12:10 PM
"day ain't over yet-"
der kapitan's Avatar
Western N.Y. winemaking country
Joined Jun 2005
9,713 Posts
I was cleaning out my desk trays yesterday, and by coincidence came across a folder with drawings for an ELCO 26' cruiser from about the same period, 1928 I think.

It's similar to the model in this thread, and I'd forgotten that I had collected this info.

Has me interested all over again---.
der kapitan is offline Find More Posts by der kapitan
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 28, 2011, 01:51 PM
WooHoo!
woodybob's Avatar
Lake Balboa, CA
Joined Jun 2007
5,060 Posts
Wow...what a cool project.
woodybob is offline Find More Posts by woodybob
Reply With Quote
Old Aug 28, 2011, 02:32 PM
Damp and Dizzy member
Brooks's Avatar
Bozeman, Montana, United States
Joined Aug 2003
3,377 Posts
Boats,Airplanes, and Kites by Armand J LaBerge

Your boat looks a lot like the photo of the 32" speedboat in the above 1935 book, pg 48. There is also a 38" model in the book: similar hull, some superstructure differences. Several motors are recommended, including one salvaged from an automobile horn.

LaBerge was "instructor of manual arts Bryant Junior High School, Minneapolis, Minn."

I got my copy from Lindsay Books, but I see some on Amazon also.

http://www.lindsaybks.com/bks8/bak/index.html

http://www.amazon.com/Boats-Airplane.../dp/B002BQKI7Q
Brooks is offline Find More Posts by Brooks
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Category Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Found Gavin's Gull shaped launch peg(s) tbird911 Aircraft - Sailplanes (FS/W) 0 Aug 22, 2011 07:40 AM
Sold late 60's early 70's SuperTigre G.21/35 combat control line. muckemm Aircraft - Fuel - Engines and Accessories (FS/W) 9 Jul 30, 2011 05:01 PM
Build Log Bobcat-30 4ch trainer Rebuild and Glow-Electric Conversion project ulogix The Builders Workshop 11 Apr 12, 2011 07:20 AM
Discussion Models from the 1920's. Jeff_Churill Scale Boats 7 Mar 15, 2011 02:53 PM
Discussion 1920,s And 30,s Lobster Boat BG-boats06 Scale Boats 27 Oct 02, 2010 07:30 AM