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Old Sep 23, 2012, 11:24 AM
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Just bought 5 of the Turnigy Nano Techs 300mah 45-90c for my Genius. It is advised to change the connector around so that the polarities will be the same. I plan on adding micro deans connectors to these batteries. My question is this: when I cut off the original connectors the wires from the batteries, red and black, are black negative and red positive right? Don't want to start a fire or burn out the board. Thanks for listening to such a dumb but have to ask question.
Yeah, Red is + and Black is -.
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Old Sep 23, 2012, 01:14 PM
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Old Sep 24, 2012, 02:45 PM
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Make sure you cut them one at a time.
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Old Sep 24, 2012, 04:05 PM
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Right had that problem once, only once! lol
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Old Sep 25, 2012, 03:16 PM
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Need help. My Genius motor gear and main gear no longer match up (main gear is below motor gear) unless I move the main shaft from the initial position to a higher position, but when this is done, my swash position is way out of wack. Any idea why this is happening or how to resolve? This heli has taken a beating. Thanks
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Old Sep 25, 2012, 05:00 PM
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Need help. My Genius motor gear and main gear no longer match up (main gear is below motor gear) unless I move the main shaft from the initial position to a higher position, but when this is done, my swash position is way out of wack. Any idea why this is happening or how to resolve? This heli has taken a beating. Thanks

I bet your main shaft collar has moved allowing the main shaft to drop down.. as you shouldn't be able to move it up and down.. So reset it so the shaft can't move up and down and then deal with the swash location.
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Old Sep 25, 2012, 07:18 PM
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Bob, thanks for the tip. I am already on the path you suggest, but its strange with the collar sliding, it would need a different "home" position to have the motor gear/main gear mesh.

btw, I just installed and tested the slipper clutch you sent for my D02S, and it works great - thanks.
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Old Sep 25, 2012, 07:34 PM
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Bob, thanks for the tip. I am already on the path you suggest, but its strange with the collar sliding, it would need a different "home" position to have the motor gear/main gear mesh.

btw, I just installed and tested the slipper clutch you sent for my D02S, and it works great - thanks.
What you do is start at the bottom of the main gear and make sure that the main shaft is flush with the bottom of the gear, holding main gear tight to bottom of frame, lower collar to top of frame.. Once you have this set look at the motor pinion gear is it now lined up with the main gear if yes then go to work on the swash height.. If not figure out why, is the motor loose? Has the pinion moved on the motor's shaft ( a common thing to have happen) if so move it back to where it's in the middle of the main gear. Apply some red Loctite to the pinion without getting any on the motor..

Glad you got the slipper clutch installed and it's working for you.. Was easy to do right??
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:14 AM
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Bob, thanks for the advise and I like this approach. I will give it a try this weekend.

Your slipper clutch installation was a piece of cake.

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Old Sep 26, 2012, 05:32 AM
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I got the motor and esc from terrence jade and after some soldering managed to install it. I had to cut part of the canopy tho. I've tried installing it with the cable out to brace against the canopy, but it just molded around the cable.

The heli flies fine, and afterwards the motor was barely warm. However, that was with the 350mah batteries. The stock batteries barely gets it off the ground.

Hopefully, this means no more overheating and continious flying.

The disturbing part is that the propeller doesn't seem to start on its own and i had to give it a push. The LHS i called up (Plane specialist unfortunately, turns out heli motors are different from planes) can only say that it might be the ESC timing and recommends i set it up properly.

How do i setup a WK-WST-10A-LT speed controller?
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 10:03 AM
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I got the motor and esc from terrence jade and after some soldering managed to install it. I had to cut part of the canopy tho. I've tried installing it with the cable out to brace against the canopy, but it just molded around the cable.

The heli flies fine, and afterwards the motor was barely warm. However, that was with the 350mah batteries. The stock batteries barely gets it off the ground.

Hopefully, this means no more overheating and continious flying.

The disturbing part is that the propeller doesn't seem to start on its own and i had to give it a push. The LHS i called up (Plane specialist unfortunately, turns out heli motors are different from planes) can only say that it might be the ESC timing and recommends i set it up properly.

How do i setup a WK-WST-10A-LT speed controller?
There is no setup for it, it just works.....also I don't recommend continuous flying even with the brusless....the tail will go bad on you if you don't give it a rest....fly twice back to back and watch how hot that little motor gets.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 11:48 AM
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There is no setup for it, it just works.....also I don't recommend continuous flying even with the brusless....the tail will go bad on you if you don't give it a rest....fly twice back to back and watch how hot that little motor gets.
I don't have to fly the stock motor twice to make the motor seem like it's hot enough to light a match.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 08:28 PM
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The disturbing part is that the propeller doesn't seem to start on its own and i had to give it a push. The LHS i called up (Plane specialist unfortunately, turns out heli motors are different from planes) can only say that it might be the ESC timing and recommends i set it up properly.

How do i setup a WK-WST-10A-LT speed controller?
There is nothing wrong with your esc or motor, that start up issue is due to the battery not being able to supply the amps needed to get the motor started easily. I find that when mine doesn't want to start right away, pumping the throttle up and down a few times will usually get it going, or you can just do the manual start as you've done.
There isn't really anyway to eliminate that problem currently... you just can't get the amount of juice needed to smoothly start the hotter motors from a tiny single cell lipo, for the time being anyway.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 11:33 PM
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Thanks. That's a relief. After several flights, i notice that it does start on its own sometimes.

Another issue, that i can't seem to pin down. When i have the canopy on, the heli seems harder to fly. If i take it off, it flies fine. That doesn't make sense since the mainboard is basically acting like a sail vs the rounded canopy.

What's a good mod for the battery tray, i've seen a few but they're basically ripping the front of the chasis and adding velcro? Wouldn't that make the heli front heavy? I've been considering making some sort of netting to hang on to the skids, but that might stress the plastic legs too much.



Is there any issue with the ESC touching both the servo and the circuit board? Just wondering if the vibration from the main chasis would have an adverse effect on the gyros.

BTW, the ESC is not hotglued to the mainboard, that's just what i used to cover up exposed wiring when i soldered the ESC, there wasn't enough room to put in shrink tubing.
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Old Sep 30, 2012, 10:34 PM
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ESC blew so i'm back to the brushed motor.

It got so hot the frame melted.

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