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Old Sep 03, 2011, 05:11 PM
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Wow. I don't know what wiicopter said about QQ but I appreciate you guys sticking up for him. He's a great guy.
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Old Sep 03, 2011, 05:28 PM
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I hope I took that comment about QuiQue wrong... He's a fantastic pilot and has done a great job giving us some fantastic designs!

As far as the Blade 450 comment, it is nothing like the 400. As was said, the servos are different and mine flew like a dream right out of the box. Still flying well too, I love my 450 Pro.
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Old Sep 03, 2011, 05:49 PM
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Great live show in front of hundreds of people as the Scimitar took center stage by HH at the Giant Scale RC show this weekend at WPAFB museum. Great performance, great flight smoothness, great color scheme, great visability, and those retracts are too cool...I want one!
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Old Sep 03, 2011, 06:17 PM
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We made changes to the assembly process of the EFLR7140 servos many months ago, so they should be fine. We have been using these servos for many years without the kind of problems some people had on the Yak; I believe the production line had simply become sloppy in their process. The thrust vectoring servo is all new.

Ducatidr, don't let anything about the B400 throw you off about the 450. It's a totally new machine (at least in all the key areas) and the servos are all-new. A couple of our guys have been flying one with a MicroBeast just for fun using the stock servos and they're working great.
Thank you for clearing that up. Glad the servo issues have been resolved.

It's back on my list of future planes. .

I'll be attending a couple flyin's this fall so I hope to see it there.
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Old Sep 04, 2011, 08:03 AM
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We made changes to the assembly process of the EFLR7140 servos many months ago, so they should be fine. We have been using these servos for many years without the kind of problems some people had on the Yak; I believe the production line had simply become sloppy in their process. The thrust vectoring servo is all new.
That's great news, Dave! Thank you!

Looking forward to getting my hands on the new Scream-a-tar!!
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Old Sep 05, 2011, 06:35 AM
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i like the concept but think they have missed a trick!

the vt unit should have been 4 axis!

the high alpha would have been awesome!

for that reason ill stick to my stryker q as i dont think it adds anything new for the price its demanding, plus retro fitting landing gear and vt on a q would still be cheaper!
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Old Sep 05, 2011, 09:08 AM
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I think its size alone with it's 32e motor separates it from the Stryker. I hardly think a retracts and VT retrofit of a Stryker will look as clean as what they've put together. And then you add up your time and piece prices and now you're getting close.

And quite frankly, she's a beauty even without any VT. Even the fit and finish seem better than other HH foam offering. Now you must know I'm not a wing person...never even owned one. But seeing it live has changed my mind about them.
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Old Sep 05, 2011, 08:07 PM
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I am having trouble quanitfying this plane in my mind.

To me it appears to be stryker at a price point to serve someone who is looking to bash around a wing when not flying a 7k jet.

The VT is a nice addition but I have yet to see it do something different than the stryker180. I am not trying to poke at e-flite, but could someone clue me in?
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Old Sep 05, 2011, 09:02 PM
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When will this bird be in the LHS ?
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 06:26 AM
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it would have been a more interesting plane if it were

a ducted fan,
360 degree thrust vectoring,
some purpose built airbrakes f14 or f16 style,
leading edge slats,
fully enclosed retacting landing gear with scale working oleos,
dummy fuel tanks for smoke generators or for scale drop tank function,
retracting air refueling probe for added fantasy scale warbird effect,

we know some companies do most of this on ac already. would it be too much to ask for a plane that then performs as well or better than the stryker with all the tricks and more?
scale looking jet with an open flight envolope?

there is already the very good stryker Q!
and there is a jetiger too!
and now the schimitar!
surely its the only step forward left for the developers to go!
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 06:47 AM
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360 degree thrust vectoring would be a sight to see.

I think something around 30 degrees in 2 axis is more realistic.

The balance of the suggestions are nice, though I see them as more weight added and a lower flight envelope.

JMHO.

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it would have been a more interesting plane if it were

a ducted fan,
360 degree thrust vectoring,
some purpose built airbrakes f14 or f16 style,
leading edge slats,
fully enclosed retacting landing gear with scale working oleos,
dummy fuel tanks for smoke generators or for scale drop tank function,
retracting air refueling probe for added fantasy scale warbird effect,

we know some companies do most of this on ac already. would it be too much to ask for a plane that then performs as well or better than the stryker with all the tricks and more?
scale looking jet with an open flight envolope?

there is already the very good stryker Q!
and there is a jetiger too!
and now the schimitar!
surely its the only step forward left for the developers to go!
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 08:14 AM
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Surely you're kidding...right?

The plane is only $400 + retracts

Should it also keep your beer cold?

Speaking of beer,

You know what they say -

Hard to have an HK taste on an Hi Point budget.


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it would have been a more interesting plane if it were

a ducted fan,
360 degree thrust vectoring,
some purpose built airbrakes f14 or f16 style,
leading edge slats,
fully enclosed retacting landing gear with scale working oleos,
dummy fuel tanks for smoke generators or for scale drop tank function,
retracting air refueling probe for added fantasy scale warbird effect,

we know some companies do most of this on ac already. would it be too much to ask for a plane that then performs as well or better than the stryker with all the tricks and more?
scale looking jet with an open flight envolope?

there is already the very good stryker Q!
and there is a jetiger too!
and now the schimitar!
surely its the only step forward left for the developers to go!
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 08:30 AM
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Only $400?
I am not certain what your hobby budget is like but to many $400 is a big bite.
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 09:19 AM
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Surely you're kidding...right?

The plane is only $400 + retracts

Should it also keep your beer cold?

Speaking of beer,

You know what they say -

Hard to have an HK taste on an Hi Point budget.
some of us have more than one hobby! or a lesser paid job!
and already have the stryker Q!

it has to be something really special to then part with another $400 for a plane that does naff all new!

yes its a fine looking plane and it flys real well, but bang for buck its outdone by the strykerQ in my opinion.

for a plane that looks little different to the stryker and costs more id be expecting something far better to make me part with my hard erned cash, so i dont think any of my suggestions are too far fetched when other models already have vt, parachutes, opening canopies, ejecting pilots, retracts with doors, smoke, airbrakes etc etc at a price you can at least be tempted to dig a little deeper for.

i want all that but with the flight envolope the stryker Q offers. i dont think its too much to hope for.

i was just saying that is the only direction left to go if they are to try and continue to flog this horse!
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 10:17 AM
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Whatever guys

So for $150 more than a Stryker Q you're getting landing gear, better looks, more powerful ESC, bigger battery, an extra servo, single axis VT, Carbon/Ply reinforced airframe and MOST OF ALL A 32e MOTOR!!!! Do you understand the magnitude of size difference against a 480?

We are talking about a wing that is 5" wider and a whopping 11" longer than the Styker. She comes in at about 4 and a half pounds. And just like that little Ceasar's commercial of old; "dat's alata pizza uncle Ed!".


And I don't even own a wing...sheesh!!

Peace - Out
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