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Old Jul 29, 2011, 08:02 AM
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112.5" Vickers Viscount 814 Scratch Build

Dear Propliner and Airliner friends!

Since the DC-6 will be finished in maybe one year I have to think of a next model. I came across a 1/200 Herpa Model of a Vickers Viscount 814 in Lufthansa Livery which I like very much. Four Engines are great and this would be some challenge! So this plane would be interesting also since it seems that I can get some considerable documentation and drawings of the full scale plane.

The Original will be the Vickers Viscount 814 c/n 340 D-ANAD

I will incorporate

* Double slotted Flaps that run in a flap track like the full scale one
* Scale retractable undercarriage
* All controls must be actuated with hidden links (no visible control horns)
* If possible: all flying tabs fully functional (aileron, elevator and rudder)

The plane will be electric (of course!) and since the full scale plane had turbines rather than piston engines the sound will be at least a bit closer.

There are already some questions: Does anybody knows what airfoil the Vickers Viscout used? I heard something about NACA 63-??? I'd love to have the same airfoil like the full scale plane but this is usually not possible.

So any suggestions and Information highly appreciated!

I am now about the get all information for a decent build. Also I won't start building until the DC-6 is airworthy! So for the next year gathering information will be subject to this thread and get details about landing gear, flaps, and so on. Of course get the right shape of the plane.

Cheers Alexander
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Old Jul 29, 2011, 03:08 PM
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Alexander,

Check out this link.

http://www.ae.illinois.edu/m-selig/ads/aircraft.html

The list is in alphabetic order so Vickers is almost at the bottom.


Good luck with your build.
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Old Jul 29, 2011, 03:54 PM
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Thank you Zipman, that's where I have the "NACA 63-???" from.

I took some closer look at the design of the fuselage and realized that the design is amazingly simple! Every cross section is plain circular. So designing the model will be way simpler than the fuselage of the DC-6.

The picture shows clearly how they added the Cockpit on top of this sleek design. Amazing!

Cheers Alexander
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Old Jul 29, 2011, 04:16 PM
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Alexander,
Great choice!!! The world needs a good scale model of the Viscount.
I know your work will produce a masterpiece !!
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Old Jul 30, 2011, 02:43 AM
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Thank you Paul,

I was also considering the Convair 440 (I got an original Manual with even more details from a former SAS pilot for scanning it). But I love the Vickers with the four engines and it seems that I can get as much detailled information about the full scale plane as I had for the DC-6.

Here is another interesting picture showing an even earlier stage of the build of the fuselage. You can clearly see that they have an elliptical opening for the cockpit where they put the hood on top. With this knowledge the build of the fuselage will be pretty straight forward and it will be merely a slightly bent cigar to build.

I assume that they wanted to have the plain circular cross section of the fuselage due to the pressurization. Remember: this airliner was designed in the late 1940ies!

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Alexander
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Old Jul 31, 2011, 11:01 PM
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Ich bin hier auch, Alex!



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Old Aug 01, 2011, 01:29 AM
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Das freut mich sehr, James!

Just to make sure. The actual build will start in a year or so. But this time I want to let you participate in the entire process of a scratch build from the very beginning, i.e. the idea to the (hopefully) flying model.

In the meantime I stumbled over the site www.vickersviscount.net and sent them an e-mail about the project. I got immediate response and Simon sent me some scans from the manuals showing clearly how the flaps work and how the main and nosegear look. Plus he sent me pictures of a Viscount that will be restored. So I could see details of the flap construction (Thank you Simon!).

I'll have to ask him if I can post some of the scans / pictures here.

This part is also very exciting! Getting the material and see if I can build a model that implements some of the full scale details like flap mechanism and landing gear.

What I am looking for now are station diagrams. In the Airliner Tech book are two and I am very pleased to see that the station numbers respresent inches like with the DC-6.

Cheers Alexander
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Old Aug 01, 2011, 03:42 AM
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Hi Alex - I've caught up with you on the RC groups forum :-)

Yes, please feel free to upload anything I've sent you regarding the Viscount to this forum.

(I'll reply to your email later on)

Cheers
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Old Aug 01, 2011, 07:51 AM
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So Jealous........

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Old Aug 01, 2011, 08:21 AM
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Here's a rather interesting Vickers Viscount, a Type 663 Tay Viscount, twin engine jet.


Addition - picture of a Viscount plan in this thread - Vickers Viscount plans? post #3, for control line ?
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Old Aug 01, 2011, 08:29 AM
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Here's a rather interesting Vickers Viscount, a Type 663 Tay Viscount, twin engine jet.


Addition - picture of a Viscount plan in this thread - Vickers Viscount plans? post #3, for control line ?
Thank you. I already saw both! Interesting stuff.

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Old Aug 02, 2011, 03:50 AM
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Vickers Viscount - probably my next build too - or soon anyway.
More than likely I'll be looking at it as a replacement for my Heron, so mine will be a bit bigger... possibly 140" to be 1:8 scale.
I too am a few months off starting though, so plenty of time to get ideas together preparatory to commencing drawing.

I saw Andy flying his jet Viscount last Sunday at Colerne. It looked smooth despite trying wind conditions. A very nice little model.
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Old Aug 10, 2011, 07:22 AM
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Alexander

They have a Viscount in my local aviation museum if you need any specific pictures. Not a big deal to go get them for ya.
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Old Aug 10, 2011, 11:29 AM
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Hepdog, do you have a photo of it so we can see what colours it is in?
And do you know what mark it is? 700 series or 800?
Perhaps there is a website for the museum?
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Old Aug 10, 2011, 11:41 AM
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I'm going to follow this too!

I happened to see this aircraft in operation for Indian Airlines in the mid-70's

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