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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:00 AM
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My bet is an AS3X version of this model is forthcoming. Horizon has them on sale at $99 right now! Been contemplating one of these for awhile; at that price point it is very compelling...
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:33 AM
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So, I've been spending waaaay too much time messing around with control mixes on my Micro Stryker. I have a DX8 and have been concerned that if I dial in the amount of pitch and roll that I want, then I'll overdrive the servos when I corner the stick (for an inverted flat-spin or other maneuver). I can actually hear the servo's whine jump louder when I exceed the the limits. I checked some of the Parkzone manuals and saw this text pertaining to those linear servos:


Unfortunately, the DX8 does not have "absolute limits" to prevent this from happening with the elevon mix. You have to have the DX10t or te DX18 for that feature.

But, the helicopter programming DOES have an "E-Ring" feature that prevents servos on a swashplate from overdriving when you corner the sticks! So, my Stryker thinks it's a heli now! I set it for 135deg swashplate control. Then I opened the Stryker and moved the elevator servo to the pitch channel. In the Swash control, I zeroed out the collective so that nothing changes when I move the throttle stick, but I was now able to adjust the roll and pitch throws so that I can have nearly max elevator and roll, yet if I corner the sticks, they do not go beyond 115% (the limit of the linear servos). Perfect!

Since I had it open, I removed the Y-split adapter and connected one rudder servo directly to the rudder channel, and then connected the other rudder servo to the Ch5/Xport channel. Spent a little time mixing Aux2 with those two channels, and I now have split-rudder control! My rudders now move twice as far to the outside as inside, and I now use the flap switch to enable two levels of "split-rudder" air brakes.

Wish me luck, gents. This should be a wild test-flight on Wednesday! If all goes as planned, I'll post my DX8 SPM file.

- Jim
What you want to look for is travel adjust, the travel adjust will be 100 percent unless you change it, so you really dont need to worry about it.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 10:50 AM
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My bet is an AS3X version of this model is forthcoming. Horizon has them on sale at $99 right now! Been contemplating one of these for awhile; at that price point it is very compelling...
I bet not
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 12:41 PM
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What you want to look for is travel adjust, the travel adjust will be 100 percent unless you change it, so you really dont need to worry about it.
No. The travel after the elevon mix can over 100 percent and travel adjust is useless in this case and only the same like D/R.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:36 PM
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I think what Microheli is trying to say is, with the elevator and aileron travels set at 100% each, when you give a mixed input (Pushing the right stick into any corner) they add up to push the servo over 100%. I experienced this on my Dx8, and had to reduce my throws to correct for it. I'll be awaiting Macr0t0r's results eagerly!
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 01:48 PM
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any tricks to setting this one up on a DX6i ?
thanks
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 02:02 PM
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any tricks to setting this one up on a DX6i ?
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Yes,
The 180 manual details swapping 2 Rx leads for the DX6i. Not a big deal to take care of.

Also, I suggest using the following method for All delta wings on a DX6i.
It corrects a programming error in the DX6i elevon mixing.
This applies to new Tx's also as the issue has never been addressed.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=35
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 05:11 PM
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Yes,
The 180 manual details swapping 2 Rx leads for the DX6i. Not a big deal to take care of.

Also, I suggest using the following method for All delta wings on a DX6i.
It corrects a programming error in the DX6i elevon mixing.
This applies to new Tx's also as the issue has never been addressed.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=35
Actually, that issue was address on the DX8 and higher with Airware 2.04. Unfortunately, the DX6i can't be updated easily.

- Jim
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 06:09 PM
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I bet not
I wouldn't bet against it. Everyone who says "it flies fine without AS3X" isn't seeing the benefits of moving the CG way back... which you can do with AS3X.

Boomerangs and a bunch of other tricks would be a lot easier with a rearward CG, and I'm sure Quique knows this.

$92 @ WT is a closeout price. Just like we saw on the 4-site, the Beast, etc.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 06:55 PM
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Maybe they're bringing out a UMX Carbon-Z Scimitar AS3X 180 or 280.
TODD
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 07:19 PM
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now that would be sweet! with thrust vectoring of course. Maybe even 360 degrees. Imagine the possibilities.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 07:16 AM
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I wouldn't bet against it. Everyone who says "it flies fine without AS3X" isn't seeing the benefits of moving the CG way back...
And I still don't

Anyway I just ordered a Stryker in case you are right and it's being discontinued.
Note that they slashed the price with $100 of the full size Stryker as well.
Is this a clear out to make space for updated versions or is it simply a new price point reflecting the fact they're not AS3X equiped?
Doesn't make sense to have older tech that cost the same as the new.

Hard not to speculate, the latest offerings, Mini Vapor, 280 size Edge and 3 channel co-ax heli (I mean, really?) are all non-AS3X and they have to top the current line-up..
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 08:30 AM
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And I still don't
Every modern fighter jet build since about 1979 has a negative stability margin and won't fly without gyro's.

If you want Fighter like performance, you have to have a fighter like CG.

Its where the world is going.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 03:58 PM
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2 GREAT flights today!! Winds were 2-3mph on the surface & blowing more up at altitude. A red tail falcon was soaring a bit higher as was another type of cool lookin bird, so I decided to cruise up there & check 'em out. Than I decided to chop the power..... AWESOME!!!!

Had a blast! Why did I never think of soaring her before?? DUH!! I fly a Radian Pro but obviously for some reason I think only the RP can soar/thermal??

Got over 15mins of flying with her and the birds!! I even had more fun with her in the wind than my trusty Eflite MiG 15 EDF that I've had slicing thru 12+mph winds!!
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 06:30 PM
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And I still don't

Anyway I just ordered a Stryker in case you are right and it's being discontinued.
Note that they slashed the price with $100 of the full size Stryker as well.
Is this a clear out to make space for updated versions or is it simply a new price point reflecting the fact they're not AS3X equiped?
Doesn't make sense to have older tech that cost the same as the new.

Hard not to speculate, the latest offerings, Mini Vapor, 280 size Edge and 3 channel co-ax heli (I mean, really?) are all non-AS3X and they have to top the current line-up..
oh man, a 100bucks off the full size one?

interesting to see what's going to happen next....
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