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Old Sep 09, 2011, 07:11 AM
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i also ordered from ADC and had the parts in just a couple of days will definitly use Rob again. Buck & half coming together, got 3dhs long servo arms for elev, when mounted does the arm go fwd towards the front or back toward elev, or does it matter? Going to screw gear in, do you do the epoxy to outside of gear plate like buck huck? Going to order CC ice lite 50 today who is good to get these from, as Rob doesn't carry them, Bivens has a 130 I'll use unless Ben start taking orders this weekend. Also I was going to use AR500 for rec, but after reading about them I'm a little freaked, any suggestions?

Bill
I ordered a ice lite 50 from all e r.c. for $85. if you order over $100 you get free shipping.
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 09:09 AM
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I am building the buck and a half, I got the servo horn extensions, for the elevator, which hole to start with? I have a Dx6i.

Ron
Can the DX6 crank up the throw? Set the throw to max and move the arm and see what works. I'd start with the fathest one out.
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 09:16 AM
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Can the DX6 crank up the throw? Set the throw to max and move the arm and see what works. I'd start with the fathest one out.
The DX6i can increase the travel adjust up to 125% but that's it. For me... this only resulted in about 30 degree throw on the elevator. So I ordered the longer servo arms which should easily get me to the desired 45 degree angle I'm looking for.

I'll start in the outer hole and if I get too much throw I'll just dial back my dual rate (but leave travel adjust at 125%).
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 09:17 AM
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you are on the right track.
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 09:43 AM
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I have been talking with Rob over at ADC and he has figured out a good motor for me. What service! It is after hours and he is still messaging me back and forth. He has suggested a Hacker motor (specifically the A30-12L Hacker) based on the elevation I am at (5500 feet) and the fact that I plan on using 3s since those are the packs I have. I only have 1 4s pack and use it in one of my EDF's I rarely fly. Truly a great experience working with him and ADC. I will be a return customer for many years if they continue this kind of support! I am fairly new to 3D and he is really helping me out on getting a good setup.
I had the Hacker A30-12L on mine and it was too heavy to get the CG right without adding weight to the tail. w/ prop adapter and X mount it's a 173 gram motor!

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Old Sep 09, 2011, 10:00 AM
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i also ordered from ADC and had the parts in just a couple of days will definitly use Rob again. Buck & half coming together, got 3dhs long servo arms for elev, when mounted does the arm go fwd towards the front or back toward elev, or does it matter? Going to screw gear in, do you do the epoxy to outside of gear plate like buck huck? Going to order CC ice lite 50 today who is good to get these from, as Rob doesn't carry them, Bivens has a 130 I'll use unless Ben start taking orders this weekend. Also I was going to use AR500 for rec, but after reading about them I'm a little freaked, any suggestions?

Bill
I've been using a ZTW ESC from quantumhobby. I recommend it to others so often I should get some sort of commission...
I've been using an AR500 in both my Buck and Buck1.5 Hucks - never a problem with them.
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 10:44 AM
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The weather cleared a little this morning, so I tried to "re-maiden" the buck and a half (flew briefly in high winds a week ago). Got all the way to the flying field and realized I had forgotten my canopy. Oh well, at least I got to fly my new PZ Spitfire Mark IX. Sweet little foam warbird if you're into that sort of thing.
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 10:49 AM
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I had the Hacker A30-12L on mine and it was too heavy to get the CG right without adding weight to the tail. w/ prop adapter and X mount it's a 173 gram motor!

IMO -Light is right!
listed as a 143g motor

http://www.espritmodel.com/hacker-a30-12l-motor-v2.aspx

i dont doubt that it is that heavy with x mount and prop adapter, but you also have to realize that other motors are heavier with that stuff as well
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 10:53 AM
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I had the Hacker A30-12L on mine and it was too heavy to get the CG right without adding weight to the tail. w/ prop adapter and X mount it's a 173 gram motor!

IMO -Light is right!
instead of adding weight, couldnt you just relocate the rudder servo to the rear?
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 11:06 AM
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I have one with a Hacker A30-12L(13x6.5) and one with an Omega 130g(14x7), all the other gear is exactly the same. My battery location is in the same place on both to get a proper cg.
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 11:15 AM
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I have one with a Hacker A30-12L(13x6.5) and one with an Omega 130g(14x7), all the other gear is exactly the same. My battery location is in the same place on both to get a proper cg.
i have used the omega 130gram and a hacker a30-14L in my vr-1 with no real noticeable difference in battery location as well.
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 11:40 AM
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....My only concern is that I CA'd the nut onto the adjuster on the servo arm (no CA on the servo arm, just on the nut and threads of the adjuster) so I hope I can get it off. If not, I'll just buy some replacement servo arms and use another adjuster I guess.....
Put a little heat on it with a soldering iron and the CA will let go quick....just a quick touch....not enough to melt the servo arm.....or you can use acetone or debonder to release the CA......either way....you can reuse the hardware and arm.
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 12:09 PM
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Put a little heat on it with a soldering iron and the CA will let go quick....just a quick touch....not enough to melt the servo arm.....or you can use acetone or debonder to release the CA......either way....you can reuse the hardware and arm.
Thanks for the tip - much appreciated.
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 12:24 PM
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i also ordered from ADC and had the parts in just a couple of days will definitly use Rob again. you do the epoxy to outside of gear plate like buck huck? Going to order CC ice lite 50 today who is good to get these from, as Rob doesn't carry them,

Bill
We should have ICE 50's next week, order went in today for them and they will be up on the web this afternoon
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 12:25 PM
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So I got my build finished last night except for the long servo arm that I'm waiting on (hopefully it gets here today or tomorrow). I'm feeling good about it - and I'm dying to fly it.

One thing that I was impressed with was how well the plane balanced. I was also suprised how much play I have available in battery positioning to get the plane's CG from the front of the range (80mm) to the back of the range (90mm). The range is very small but it allows for relatively large battery movements.

I'm running a 4s setup (4S 2500's) and to get the CG back to 90MM I have to put the battery all the way up against the wing tub. To get the CG up to 80MM I can move the battery a good 2 inches forward of the wing tube. It's nice to have that much play in my CG...
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