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Old Jan 19, 2013, 07:58 PM
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cool thanks. hope to get to try out inbetween services at work tomorrow. i think about 1.5 was the best i could get. it would hang up there for a bit tho.
If you're getting about 1.5 turns you're doing fine. Play around with the speed of your aileron and elevator transition and see what happens. You can actually pop top into a KE spin too!! Just hold that left aileron longer.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 07:59 PM
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What do you guys call a rotation in a pop top? I always think 360 deg and I've never seen one that was more than like 2 full circles at the top. I can do sweet ones with my 70" gasser that are real crowd pleasers and they are about 720 degrees.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 08:12 PM
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What do you guys call a rotation in a pop top? I always think 360 deg and I've never seen one that was more than like 2 full circles at the top. I can do sweet ones with my 70" gasser that are real crowd pleasers and they are about 720 degrees.
Yep. 360 from entry point. My 51" Slick is the best in my fleet at pop tops. My 71" Slick is a distant second.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 08:43 PM
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If you're getting about 1.5 turns you're doing fine. Play around with the speed of your aileron and elevator transition and see what happens. You can actually pop top into a KE spin too!! Just hold that left aileron longer.
the 1.5 was just on the 3 out of 10 that were good. didnt think about the pop top to KE spin.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 08:44 PM
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so how hard on the buck 50 airframe and wing tube is the KE spin?
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 08:50 PM
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so how hard on the buck 50 airframe and wing tube is the KE spin?
not as hard as a FT blender
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 08:50 PM
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so how hard on the buck 50 airframe and wing tube is the KE spin?
I think it's actually much harder on the motor mount and motor box than anything. But I can tell you that I probably did close to 500 KE spins on my last Edge with no ill effects. In fact, at one point a KE spin, hover and blender were about all I knew how to do!
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 08:50 PM
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Well, here's the damage from last weeks little foray and snapping of the wing tube

I think the sides will be ok with a bit of glue. What is the best way to glue the balsa pieces back together? Thin or Med CA or epoxy?

The rest of the left hand side is still attached to the wing

The damage to the motorbox is a different problem. The braces on the first former are broken. Would some popsicle sticks glued to the back of these with Med CA be strong enough? I think I will need a new firewall as that has been pushed back (Steve T - do you have a template for this one ) The damage to the piece on the top of the motorbox is a little concerning - would another piece of wood glued to the top be strong enough to hold it. Thinking about it, would it be better just to get the motorbox kit and use the firewall and top of the motorbox kit and first former to replace the broken pieces? Might be difficult trying to get just one or two pieces out and back in while leaving the rest in there.

Does the motorbox kit extend back to the former where the rudder servo is mounted. Even if it did how would I get the broken one out and the new one in? Might have to be popsicle sticks again up the side of the plane to try and give it some strength Just a little worrying as this is where the wingtube goes so there would be quite a bit of stress in this area.

Does anyone know how to fix the sleeve the carbon tibe goes through in the fuselage as this has snapped as well and a small piece is missing? Either that or does someone have one they would be willing to sell and I'll pay postage as well? I have a US address I can use

Will need to order a new cowl anyway as that was pretty busted up as well.

I know this is "chinacote" but does anyone also know the closest blue monokote or ultracote to this covering?

How strong will the repairs need to be? I don't want to go overboard and double the weight of the plane, but it still needs to be strong enough to handle my even basic 3D flying

Thanks for any thoughts.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 08:51 PM
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not as hard as a FT blender
Very true. I've ripped apart a few 51" Slick motor boxes like this. I see it as an accomplishment.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 08:55 PM
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i just got an in-stock notice on buck 50 motorboxes at 3dhobbyshop.com
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 08:55 PM
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looks fixable, but I would re-kit, check your motor, prop adapter or bell housing is probably bent
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 08:56 PM
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Very true. I've ripped apart a few 51" Slick motor boxes like this. I see it as an accomplishment.
yep, broke my top braces on the 51" slick twice already.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 08:56 PM
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Very true. I've ripped apart a few 51" Slick motor boxes like this. I see it as an accomplishment.
may just save FT blenders for when im showing off in front of people LOL sounds kinda scary to rip apart a motor box mid air
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 09:00 PM
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looks fixable, but I would re-kit, check your motor, prop adapter or bell housing is probably bent
Agree. That's fixable.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 09:02 PM
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may just save FT blenders for when im showing off in front of people LOL sounds kinda scary to rip apart a motor box mid air
Never ripped one so badly that I crashed... But enough to feel some strange pulling because the firewall came loose.
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