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Old Jul 10, 2011, 10:06 AM
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canard w/ sweep forward wing for 6400

just watched flying a tiny (some 16"ws) epp foamie plane with 6400 components (brick, motor and gear box).
it did stunts and still could fly very slow. it is a kit that comes painted black, with some red trim. it uses just 2 servos connected to the main wing. front wing (stab?) is fixed.
it looks like a scale version of a full size experimental, but can't remember which 1 is it.
does anybody knows who makes it?
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Old Jul 10, 2011, 10:42 AM
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Old Jul 10, 2011, 11:05 AM
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that's it!

thanks. that is the 1.
the 1 i saw has the 6400 brick and the 4site motor/gearbox, and a gws 5/3 prop and flies just great. it uses the 2 servos on the 6400 for elevons only and seems to be all that it needs.
thanks again.
great model. congratulations to the designer.
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Old Jul 10, 2011, 12:33 PM
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Old Jul 10, 2011, 12:59 PM
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Heres the main thread Phil.
TODD
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hlight=firefox
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Old Jul 10, 2011, 02:11 PM
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now and then...

thanks. seems that it started when the technology was not as advanced as is today. the 1 i saw uses lighter components and flies great. i think it does better than what there was available at the time.
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Old Jul 25, 2011, 06:16 AM
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firefox

ok. so now we know it is the firefox.
whoever has flown it, could you post here your experiences with it?
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Old Jul 25, 2011, 06:34 AM
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ok. so now we know it is the firefox.
whoever has flown it, could you post here your experiences with it?
thanks
I've flown the Super Jet which is the conventional wing version. Flies fast and slow. Very relaxing. Easy to fix. Long flight times. I'm on my second one now. Check HK for reviews.
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Old Jul 25, 2011, 07:50 AM
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I've flown the Super Jet which is the conventional wing version. Flies fast and slow. Very relaxing. Easy to fix. Long flight times. I'm on my second one now. Check HK for reviews.
thanks, MT. great advice.
at this time am trying to evaluate the swept forward wing-with canard. what i know is that a swept forward wing makes an airplane more maneurable-and that means unstable, too, but i saw a firefox (with swept forward wing and canard) flying seemly very stable and maneurable, although that could be just that the pilot is very good. that's why am trying to learn how i can do with that.
and am also trying to learn where it balances.
anybody?
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Old Jul 25, 2011, 08:12 AM
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At this scale and weight and with flat wings I doubt there will be a big difference between forward and backward swept wings. Balance on the firefox is 2-3cm in front of the leading edge according to Metroidrc in the other thread.
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Old Jul 25, 2011, 09:19 AM
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At this scale and weight and with flat wings I doubt there will be a big difference between forward and backward swept wings. Balance on the firefox is 2-3cm in front of the leading edge according to Metroidrc in the other thread.
i have to admit that, at the end of the day, the results may be the same.
still, maybe i will try both and see. but it takes lots of testing to be absolutely sure if really there is any difference.
thanks a lot for your comments.
and about balance: would it be measured from the tips? that he does not say.
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and about balance: would it be measured from the tips? that he does not say.
I think it is measured from where the leading edge makes a V close to the body.
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Old Jul 25, 2011, 10:43 AM
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Felipe, this plane is a twist from ELF concept maybe some more scale is nice, the X-29 is a good subject.

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Old Jul 25, 2011, 11:06 AM
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I think it is measured from where the leading edge makes a V close to the body.
that's where i would do it. thanks.

and about your plane (the super jet): where does it balance? measured from where?
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Old Jul 25, 2011, 11:41 AM
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Sounds like at the intersection between the center triangle and the main leading edge. So at that shallow "V" go back 2-3 cm and then do some test glides.
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