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Old Sep 01, 2003, 03:02 AM   #1
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Counter-clockwise rotating blades.

Hi there!

I am trying to find an electric model heli which has blades turning anti-
clockwise instead of the usual clockwise rotation. Does anyone know a
model that has? I have searched and searched some sites but cannot find
any that have the anti-clockwise rotation.
The reason is because I am putting together a twin rotor heli and I
already have the clockwise rotating rotor, but now need the anti-
clockwise one.
TIA!
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Old Sep 01, 2003, 03:02 AM   #2
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.

This might be a stupid question, but why don't you just change the polarity
of the motor, re-time it and do it that way?
Can't you reverse the pitch linkages to the blades?

Just a thought that I am sure you have already had!

David


"PC" <F@you.com> wrote in message
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> Hi there!
>
> I am trying to find an electric model heli which has blades turning anti-
> clockwise instead of the usual clockwise rotation. Does anyone know a
> model that has? I have searched and searched some sites but cannot find
> any that have the anti-clockwise rotation.
> The reason is because I am putting together a twin rotor heli and I
> already have the clockwise rotating rotor, but now need the anti-
> clockwise one.
> TIA!



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Old Sep 01, 2003, 03:02 AM   #3
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.

In article <bita1f$h0s$1@hercules.btinternet.com>,
david_perry@btconnect.com says...
> This might be a stupid question, but why don't you just change the polarity
> of the motor, re-time it and do it that way?
> Can't you reverse the pitch linkages to the blades?
>
> Just a thought that I am sure you have already had!
>


Yep, I thought of that, but I was unsure that would give effective
control. Not only that, but I was going to use cheap fixed-pitch type
blades so I didn't need to use a CP upgrade. I don't like the idea of
just putting them on upside down. I just can't seem to find any models
that have the blades facing the other direction for anti-clockwise
rotation.
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Old Sep 01, 2003, 03:02 AM   #4
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.

Yes, Hirobo has a twin rotor helicopter. Take a look at this site
http://www.hobbytron.net/%20Electric...By-Hirobo.html

"PC" <F@you.com> ¦b¶l¥ó
news:MPG.19bc3daac66f91c4989721@text.news.ntlworld .com ¤¤¼¶¼g...
> In article <bita1f$h0s$1@hercules.btinternet.com>,
> david_perry@btconnect.com says...
> > This might be a stupid question, but why don't you just change the

polarity
> > of the motor, re-time it and do it that way?
> > Can't you reverse the pitch linkages to the blades?
> >
> > Just a thought that I am sure you have already had!
> >

>
> Yep, I thought of that, but I was unsure that would give effective
> control. Not only that, but I was going to use cheap fixed-pitch type
> blades so I didn't need to use a CP upgrade. I don't like the idea of
> just putting them on upside down. I just can't seem to find any models
> that have the blades facing the other direction for anti-clockwise
> rotation.



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Old Sep 01, 2003, 03:02 AM   #5
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.

If the blades are symetrical then upside down or right way up, they wont
know!

David
"PC" <F@you.com> wrote in message
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> In article <bita1f$h0s$1@hercules.btinternet.com>,
> david_perry@btconnect.com says...
> > This might be a stupid question, but why don't you just change the

polarity
> > of the motor, re-time it and do it that way?
> > Can't you reverse the pitch linkages to the blades?
> >
> > Just a thought that I am sure you have already had!
> >

>
> Yep, I thought of that, but I was unsure that would give effective
> control. Not only that, but I was going to use cheap fixed-pitch type
> blades so I didn't need to use a CP upgrade. I don't like the idea of
> just putting them on upside down. I just can't seem to find any models
> that have the blades facing the other direction for anti-clockwise
> rotation.



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Old Sep 01, 2003, 03:02 AM   #6
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.

In article <bitgc4$afq$1@balder.stud.idb.hist.no>, teddyliu@tedani.com
says...
> Yes, Hirobo has a twin rotor helicopter. Take a look at this site
> http://www.hobbytron.net/%20Electric...By-Hirobo.html


Thankyou for your reply.
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Old Sep 01, 2003, 03:03 AM   #7
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.

In article <bitmmi$c37$1@hercules.btinternet.com>,
david_perry@btconnect.com says...
> If the blades are symetrical then upside down or right way up, they wont
> know!


Ok cheers for your response. I find it strange that there are so many
models that have blades turning clockwise. It almost seems like standard
with models.
I'll check the symetrical blades out.
Thanks!
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Old Sep 01, 2003, 03:03 AM   #8
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.

>I find it strange that there are so many
>models that have blades turning clockwise. It almost seems like standard
>with models.


That's just a fluke related to which way our glo engines turn. The engine
crankshaft turning counter-clockwise, directly geared to the helicopters main
rotor mast, thus spinning it clockwise. The few counter-clockwise rotor
systems I've flown either had a two stage reduction between the engine and main
rotor mast or had a gas engine that turned the opposite direction that our glo
engines do.

It really doesn't make much difference either way. The only time I "really"
prefer a counter-clockwise rotation is on a scale bird. Watching a Jet Ranger
fly around with a clockwise rotor system just doesn't look right! ;-)

Fly Safe,
Steve R.
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Old Sep 01, 2003, 03:03 AM   #9
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.

In article <20030831230137.18054.00000218@mb-m06.aol.com>,
rhodesst@aol.com says...
> >I find it strange that there are so many
> >models that have blades turning clockwise. It almost seems like standard
> >with models.

>
> That's just a fluke related to which way our glo engines turn. The engine
> crankshaft turning counter-clockwise, directly geared to the helicopters main
> rotor mast, thus spinning it clockwise. The few counter-clockwise rotor
> systems I've flown either had a two stage reduction between the engine and main
> rotor mast or had a gas engine that turned the opposite direction that our glo
> engines do.
>
> It really doesn't make much difference either way. The only time I "really"
> prefer a counter-clockwise rotation is on a scale bird. Watching a Jet Ranger
> fly around with a clockwise rotor system just doesn't look right! ;-)


I know exactly what you mean. I have always prefered counter-clockwise
rotation blades. The reason I think was because when I started getting
into heli's my favourite was the Jetranger. I always liked the way the
blades looked when doing a turn away from observation, especially when
going fast. It stuck since then, and I was a little disappointed when I
saw models with clockwise rotation.
It sounds strange I guess, but it's just my personal preference.
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Old Sep 02, 2003, 03:01 AM   #10
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.


"Rhodesst" <rhodesst@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030831230137.18054.00000218@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >I find it strange that there are so many
> >models that have blades turning clockwise. It almost seems like standard
> >with models.

>
> That's just a fluke related to which way our glo engines turn. The engine
> crankshaft turning counter-clockwise, directly geared to the helicopters

main
> rotor mast, thus spinning it clockwise. The few counter-clockwise rotor
> systems I've flown either had a two stage reduction between the engine and

main
> rotor mast or had a gas engine that turned the opposite direction that our

glo
> engines do.
>
> It really doesn't make much difference either way. The only time I

"really"
> prefer a counter-clockwise rotation is on a scale bird. Watching a Jet

Ranger
> fly around with a clockwise rotor system just doesn't look right! ;-)


You mean you can TELL which way the blades are turning when they're flying
Steve?? I want your eyes. (Get him guys, I'll get the knife!!!!" :-)



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Old Sep 02, 2003, 03:01 AM   #11
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.


"PC" <F@you.com> wrote in message
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> In article <20030831230137.18054.00000218@mb-m06.aol.com>,
> rhodesst@aol.com says...
> > >I find it strange that there are so many
> > >models that have blades turning clockwise. It almost seems like

standard
> > >with models.

> >
> > That's just a fluke related to which way our glo engines turn. The

engine
> > crankshaft turning counter-clockwise, directly geared to the helicopters

main
> > rotor mast, thus spinning it clockwise. The few counter-clockwise rotor
> > systems I've flown either had a two stage reduction between the engine

and main
> > rotor mast or had a gas engine that turned the opposite direction that

our glo
> > engines do.
> >
> > It really doesn't make much difference either way. The only time I

"really"
> > prefer a counter-clockwise rotation is on a scale bird. Watching a Jet

Ranger
> > fly around with a clockwise rotor system just doesn't look right! ;-)

>
> I know exactly what you mean. I have always prefered counter-clockwise
> rotation blades. The reason I think was because when I started getting
> into heli's my favourite was the Jetranger. I always liked the way the
> blades looked when doing a turn away from observation, especially when
> going fast. It stuck since then, and I was a little disappointed when I
> saw models with clockwise rotation.
> It sounds strange I guess, but it's just my personal preference.


Easily satisfied with the purchase of a Vario machine. Most of those are
anti-clock which looks wrong on an Allouette:-(


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Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk



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Old Sep 02, 2003, 03:01 AM   #12
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.

>You mean you can TELL which way the blades are turning when they're flying
>Steve?? I want your eyes. (Get him guys, I'll get the knife!!!!" :-)
>
>
>
>--
>Beav


Be careful what you wish for, Beav! <g>

At almost 48, I'm in bad need of an updated prescription on my eye glasses.
:-(

It's just that spin up before take-off and the spool down after landing.
<shrug>

Fly Safe,
Steve R.
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Old Sep 02, 2003, 03:02 AM   #13
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.


"Rhodesst" <rhodesst@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >You mean you can TELL which way the blades are turning when they're

flying
> >Steve?? I want your eyes. (Get him guys, I'll get the knife!!!!" :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Beav

>
> Be careful what you wish for, Beav! <g>
>
> At almost 48, I'm in bad need of an updated prescription on my eye

glasses.
> :-(


I've got a few years on you Steve AND I've been diabetic for donkey's years.
Fortunately my eyes are unaffected.
>
> It's just that spin up before take-off and the spool down after landing.
> <shrug>


I know, I was just joking. I can still fly a "proper" rotating Jet Ranger
though, coz I've got the Kavan here.


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Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk


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Old Sep 03, 2003, 03:02 AM   #14
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.

The Lite Machines Corona 120 electric has anti-clockwise rotating blades.

http://litemachines.com/

Steve w8an

PC wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> I am trying to find an electric model heli which has blades turning anti-
> clockwise instead of the usual clockwise rotation. Does anyone know a
> model that has? I have searched and searched some sites but cannot find
> any that have the anti-clockwise rotation.
> The reason is because I am putting together a twin rotor heli and I
> already have the clockwise rotating rotor, but now need the anti-
> clockwise one.
> TIA!


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Old Sep 03, 2003, 03:02 AM   #15
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Re: Counter-clockwise rotating blades.

In article <vlahvha323i118@corp.supernews.com>,
sstuart@NOSPAM.glasscity.net says...
> The Lite Machines Corona 120 electric has anti-clockwise rotating blades.
>
> http://litemachines.com/
>
> Steve w8an


Wow there's some nice looking heli's there.

Thanks for the link... I liked the video section.
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