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Old Dec 31, 2012, 09:57 PM
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That finish is dead on balls Mr. Siler!

Thanks for the info Mr. Finch, i figured someone had tried that one already.

Happy New Year!

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Old Jan 01, 2013, 09:00 AM
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I've peeled KlassKote off mylars to weigh them

From my calculations it takes about 3oz of paint to do a 4meter wing... I'm building up a wing for myself and will just barely be doing a dusting. I'm very interested how it will look & weigh.

I've recently seen some of the newer pike perfections and xplorers. Their paint is just slightly more opaque than yours Tom.....
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Old Jan 01, 2013, 04:12 PM
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a thought about paint..... although this wouldn't be applicable to all carbon wings, I really like markers for carbon dbox wings. as we are all focused on performance and paint slows down production anyway, what about throwing in a color of choice perm marker with dbox kits in lieu of paint?? you could still do your branded logo, but maybe a few recommended schemes could be posted here to help the less visual people get going. then, folks will be sure to spot their model with custom color and scheme in a gaggle while minimizing added weight. I don't know....maybe folks don't want. that.... just giving my 2cents about what works for me ...:-)
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Old Jan 01, 2013, 04:51 PM
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How about chome mylar after the clear coat and the roll the resin. very light

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Old Jan 01, 2013, 05:04 PM
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@Tom: your wings look great and the weights for a full carbon wing are awesome.

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although this wouldn't be applicable to all carbon wings, I really like markers for carbon dbox wings. as we are all focused on performance and paint slows down production anyway, what about throwing in a color of choice perm marker with dbox kits in lieu of paint?? ... just giving my 2cents about what works for me ...:-)
I saw Joe Wurts doing that to his Stobels at the worlds and then also at the last IHLGF. Not the prettiest paint, but effective.

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Old Jan 01, 2013, 05:29 PM
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Markers no good frays the glass after a month rub finger over unmarked area very smooth, then rub where you used Marker and rough talking about sharpie.
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Old Jan 01, 2013, 06:41 PM
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How about chome mylar after the clear coat and the roll the resin. very light

Jeff
I just added a patch of thin chrome mylar to the bottom of a panel during the layup. It's shiny alright, but so thin that every fiber shows through. Next time, I'll double up or use thicker stuff.

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Old Jan 01, 2013, 06:46 PM
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I suppose you could always do the travesty of using some super thin sign vinyl on the outside of the wing. That would be really opaque, not sure what it weighs, and obviously there would be a tiny lip.

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Old Jan 01, 2013, 06:54 PM
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Markers no good frays the glass after a month rub finger over unmarked area very smooth, then rub where you used Marker and rough talking about sharpie.
Hi George,
I used flat tip generic brand perm markers and no change in surface quality yet. I'll keep an eye on them.
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Old Jan 01, 2013, 09:03 PM
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I think for now I'll keep dusting paint and play with some different paints. I got a few suggestions from guys in PM that I'll look into.

On a different subject:

Hello, my name is Tom and I have a hoarding problem. My obsessions are foam and clamps.
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Old Jan 01, 2013, 10:11 PM
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You can never have too many clamps... ask anyone with a woodshop. I remember being in Harbor Freight Tools a few years ago when they had some clamps on sale for $2.00. I had a $50.00 on me, and thought "why break it?", so I bought 22 clamps at once.
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Old Jan 02, 2013, 12:50 AM
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You can never have too many clamps... ask anyone with a woodshop. I remember being in Harbor Freight Tools a few years ago when they had some clamps on sale for $2.00. I had a $50.00 on me, and thought "why break it?", so I bought 22 clamps at once.
I have done same mistake a couple years ago .
Cheap Harbor Freight tools made out of plaster.
Most of these clamps are in the garbage can by now.
You obviously not building much Mark
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Old Jan 02, 2013, 01:10 AM
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Old Jan 02, 2013, 07:11 AM
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@Yuri,

The clamps in the picture are all from Harbor Freight. I've never broken one and they're used daily. They have some junk but also have some decent tools here and there.

I also have used their A frame press and pancake compressors... a lot. I guess maybe they're inconsistent at least.

I think at last count I had around forty 4" C-clamps plus a half dozen deep throat clamps and some specialty stuff. It only takes one ruined wing due to insufficient clamping to make you go buy another dozen clamps. Then you want to do fuses at the same time... so you buy more... then you decide to cut a second fuse mold... etc.

Again, never too many clamps.

On the flip side, the ratcheting clamps they sell are absolute junk. They won't hold two sheets of paper together without snapping to pieces. I got suckered into buying four of those once in a $2 sale. I think they lasted less than a day in the shop.
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Old Jan 02, 2013, 01:47 PM
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I can't think of a store with a wider variety of quality than Harbor Freight. I have a benchtop drill press that has worked perfectly under a ton of use, and I've had really good luck with their clamps (even the ratchet ones), gloves, and measuring/marking tools. But I also picked up some paint brushes which fell apart when I looked at them wrong, and some various other junk.
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