Originally Posted by Tom Hunt

still tails are wrong and there is no need for it...

Rudder

Late production series airframes, typically Mk. IXe and Mk. XVI, were often fitted with the larger, pointed Mk. VIII-type rudder.

Source: http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/spit...-varied.html/3

Originally Posted by Edge767

Rudder

Late production series airframes, typically Mk. IXe and Mk. XVI, were often fitted with the larger, pointed Mk. VIII-type rudder.

Source: http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/spit...-varied.html/3

Yes, fine... but this model is not either a "short" MK9 rudder or a "pointy" late MK9 rudder... it's the whim of a designer who didn't know any better!

Tom

Oh no! I am supposed to be reducing my hangar, You guys are killing me.
Nice Spitfire, put me down for one.

Originally Posted by startazz

Sounds like someone don't like it.
Never mind i'm sure if you don't get one it will be your loss my friend,but remember it is a bit of foam and once it's in the air and flying GOOD who cares apart from the ODD person here and there

There not going to get it 100% scale every time and i'm sure they have there reason for it,i don't think they did that to upset there customers

Right it's just gone 11.50pm over here so i'm off to bed to dream about the new PZ spitfire

I love how you complain about his comments then go on to tell him how he will be missing out. Missing out on what? He clearly states he doesnt like it, and one would assume they will never miss something they didnt want....
Its not like it will be s totally different flying experience compared to say the P-47. Its still foam, servos and an electric motor.

Yes! The old one's motor was very loud and not powerful. It's about time Parkzone listened to us all!

Originally Posted by jayxer

Its not like it will be s totally different flying experience compared to say the P-47. Its still foam, servos and an electric motor.

Jayxer, all my foamies fly differently. They fly, but characteristics are quite different.

Just sayin'.

ALL HATERS LEAVE NOW!! You're wasting space for those of us who'd like to talk about how much we like this plane. If ya don't like it, don't buy it.

Now let's get on with the excitement of this well awaited Spitfire.

Thank You!

The only time I gripe about a plane is if Hobby King or Nitro Planes puts out a nice looking plane, and then I read it flys like crap, ya can't get parts, and customer service sucks.

If you've ever dealt with Horizon, you know you won't have ANY problems. Planes fly awesome, parts are available, customer support is 2nd to None! That's why I've been buying & flying Parkzone for the past 7 years.

Guys

I am NOT hypocritical, I am critical. Just go look here.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1443651

I "BOUGHT" a very bad representation of the spitfire by FMS, because I wanted the challenge to make it into something better.

would I do this with the parkzone? I just might.... but as I said and will continue to say (from experience.... almost 40 years of flying and designing RC models) that it was NOT necessary to change the tails AND it is just as easy to do it right as it is wrong. especially when expensive injection molds are involved!

and no.. sorry I am not leaving.. but I will not continue bashing the model.

Tom

Some, just wants to fly warbirds that were part of our history.
Some, wants to collect SCALE RC warbirds as part of their collections.
While, some wants to do both, fly and collect scale warbirds, & not necessarily criticizing.
I myself just is more of the first statement above, and does not really pay attention to "details". But would be nice if they are.
None of my warbirds are anymore scale anyway because of those darn trees & and our runway is too high, LOL.

Originally Posted by the Swamp Fox

I'll be on that like a Rat on a Cheeto

I"ll be all over it like a fat kid on a cup cake

To Tom's credit, he's done some amazingly nice work with his planes. I like reading his blog posts and find them both entertaining and educational.

I am probably a little less critical of a flying model being perfectly scale, but it's his prerogative to be as critical as he wants. The nice thing about our hobby is that we can all fly what we want. Thank goodness that we aren't all being forced to fly Cessna 150's. That'd be boring*.

*I learned to fly in 152's and 150's and I have a lot of fond memories of time spent drilling holes in the sky in them, but I don't have any desire for an RC version. lol

Originally Posted by Tom Hunt

Guys

I am NOT hypocritical, I am critical. Just go look here.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1443651

I "BOUGHT" a very bad representation of the spitfire by FMS, because I wanted the challenge to make it into something better.

would I do this with the parkzone? I just might.... but as I said and will continue to say (from experience.... almost 40 years of flying and designing RC models) that it was NOT necessary to change the tails AND it is just as easy to do it right as it is wrong. especially when expensive injection molds are involved!

and no.. sorry I am not leaving.. but I will not continue bashing the model.

Tom

i have see some of tom's pictures like your FMS stuka very nice. lots and lots of hour making it just right. he does have a gift.
i don't think he is trying to be mean. he is just counting how many man hours to make it perfect. i my shelf will get it just because it is a parkzone warbird and good enough for me and i don't know any better

Originally Posted by Edge767

To Tom's credit, he's done some amazingly nice work with his planes. I like reading his blog posts and find them both entertaining and educational.

I am probably a little less critical of a flying model being perfectly scale, but it's his prerogative to be as critical as he wants. The nice thing about our hobby is that we can all fly what we want. Thank goodness that we aren't all being forced to fly Cessna 150's. That'd be boring*.

*I learned to fly in 152's and 150's and I have a lot of fond memories of time spent drilling holes in the sky in them, but I don't have any desire for an RC version. lol

egad man... my first lesson in a 150 was my last! I got right into a 172! I hated hitting my head on the ceiling and the door with every little bump! sorta like riding in an old VW bug with 4 football players inside!

but thanks... I love the FMS warbirds and the willingness of the company to make them better. What's the mustang up to version 6? never seen HH do that!

Tom

I am DEFINITELYgonna get one. The vertical tail should not be a difficult issue to address. Since it's oversize it's a simple matter to give it the correct shape & size just cutting & sanding. Oce brought down to size the bare foam sanded parts could simply be touched up with an airbrush using the correct tamiya acrylics. 3 bladed props were used up to and including the Mk.V, Mk.IX Spits used a 4 bladed prop. BTW, this is the first foamie Spit I've seen with anything near the correct pintle angles incorporated into the retracts!

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

If you've ever dealt with Horizon, you know you won't have ANY problems. Planes fly awesome, parts are available, customer support is 2nd to None! That's why I've been buying & flying Parkzone for the past 7 years.

this is why i am a die hard parkzone flyer